Deca + Medium Calories

[xonic2xonic]

Has anyone taken deca with decent results on a non-massing diet, ie medium calorie intake? Most of what I read would suggest you need to take in loads of cals to grow with this.

I am 215 at ~17% BF. I don't care to pack on more than maybe 5lbs mass during this cycle (winny+deca) but would like to lose a lot of the fat. I dont want to do DNP or cyt.

Thanks!

 

[xonic2xonic]

Yeah I don't understand to well. If you are carrying excess fat which stores something like 3500 cals per lb, when your body goes anabolic, why doesn't it try to rip any extra calories needed from fat? I realize that the body can't break the fat down instantly, but thats why I am thinking medium cal intake...

 

[rickw]

Deca makes me want to eat every three hours and if I don't I go nuts. I would use something else other than deca. Winny would be good with a clean diet.

 

[gilly6993-recreatedbygeorge]

Primo works very well on a low cal diet. You might want to try that with your Deca.

 

[xonic2xonic]

Yep, it's a little too late. I've been on the Winny 4 weeks, and took first deca yesterday.... So I'm not sure whether to risk lower cal or just fukkit and eat like a pig (but clean.)

Problem with primo is it seems to be really hard to find non-fake product. And the fakes, who knows whats in them if anything....

 

[gilly6993-recreatedbygeorge]

In my experience Primo has been pretty reliable. The Spanish Schering amps are easy to recognize and Ttokkyo just came out with theirs.

 

[xonic2xonic]

I have seen more fake spanish ones than anything else. (Writing scratches off.) Even suppliers don't seem to know. TTokyo has a primo depot or just tabs? Do you know what the strength is? I went to there site, see nothing. Thanks!

 

[gilly6993-recreatedbygeorge]

What I meant is it's pretty easy to tell the real Spanish amps from the fake ones. Like you said...the writing as well as the blue dot are give aways.

Ttokkyo has just introduced 100 mg/ ml in a 10 ml vial. Their name is primoplus-100. They'll also have 50 mg tabs.

 

[xonic2xonic]

Hmmm interesting... nothing on their site and nothing on supplier (at least mine) lists yet. Uhhh are you really in Japan? Thanks for the info BTW.