Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below
napsgear
genezapharmateuticals
domestic-supply
puritysourcelabs
UGL OZ
UGFREAK
napsgeargenezapharmateuticals domestic-supplypuritysourcelabsUGL OZUGFREAK

Deca gyno

X

xtrmFrog

New member
I am soon to start a cycle with 600 mg/week Deca for 10-12 weeks. I am trying to find out what anti-estrogen I need to stock up on just in case I start showing signs of gyno.

I keep hearing that Nolvadex will not prevent gyno from Deca.
My question is, Will Arimidex/Liquidex prevent gyno from Deca.
I know that Arimidex/Liquidex actually prevents aromatizing where Nolvadex only blocks estrogen from attatching to your receptors.

If you have any other advice, let me know.
Any information would be helpful.
 
NO

Sorry bro, Nolvadex nor Liquidex will fight gyno from Deca. If this is your first cycle, I would do 300-400 a week for 8 to 10. When you get over 500, is when you start taking chances esp. if you are prone to gyno. My advice for you would be getting your hands on some Winstrol. I like Stanol-V best, but Winstrol can be harsh on the liver so if you don't mind, go for it. 10-12 on Deca in my opinion, is just too long. Throw in some Test. Propinate doin about 200-300mg every 3 days and use the liquidex every or every other day. 1/4 of Liquidex will do. Deca and Test. is a perfect stack. If you wanna, you can replace the Deca w/ Equpoise except you gotta shoot about 300mg every 3 days to get good results. Hope this helps bro, Masterpiece
 
i woul definately listen to everything masterpiece just explained. As I always suggest, I would not do deca by itself, you will not see good results from deca alone. Believe me.
 
If you don't understand Deca's protesterone sides why are you doing 600mgs/week? That's a heavy dose. I've ACTUALLY DONE cycles of 200mgs/week and 300mgs/week ALONE and gotten good results.

Winstrol is "thought" to help with Progesterone, it wouldn't be a bad idea to include it in your cycle.


If you wanna, you can replace the Deca w/ Equpoise except you gotta shoot about 300mg every 3 days
Click to expand...
Huh? Why is that?
 
Only RU486 is proven to prevent gyno from Deca. Winstrol is thought to prevent progesterone gyno, but this isn't proven.
 
BigGuns2 said:
Only RU486 is proven to prevent gyno from Deca
Click to expand...

But Ru486 is very bad for you.. I don't understand why people would use deca then ru486.. That defeats the whole purpose of the safety of Deca.
 
It is not the Progesterone but the prolactin that creates the problem with deca. Progesterone is actually beneficial, as it is inhibitory to estrogen. Prolactin will inhibit testicular function to the point where estrogen will cause Gyno from Deca. Traditional anti-e will not work very well in that type of environment because the tissue (once it has developed) is very sensitive to even a very small amount of estrogen and the persistently high level of Prolactin will continue to inhibit testicular function. Without reducing the elevated prolactin levels Gyno is impossible to control.

Progestins also could be a problem with deca hence the Winstol recommendation. Progestin will inhibit Progesterone. Winstrol will inhibit Progestin. Bromocriptine will reduce the amount of Prolactin in you system thus allow for better testicular function and hormonal balance. Vixtex is a good option as well as it inhibits Prolactin and increases progesterone.
 
Progestins also could be a problem with deca hence the Winstol recommendation. Progestin will inhibit Progesterone. Winstrol will inhibit Progestin. Bromocriptine will reduce the amount of Prolactin in you system thus allow for better testicular function and hormonal balance. Vixtex is a good option as well as it inhibits Prolactin and increases progesterone.
Click to expand...

Ever since i started on this board I have learned something new every day. I will definately add bromocriptine post cycle to destroy prolactin.
 
Trenimator76 said:


Ever since i started on this board I have learned something new every day. I will definately add bromocriptine post cycle to destroy prolactin.
Click to expand...

Research this A LOT!!!! It has a lot of bad sides.
 
True Bromo does have allot of bad sides. That is why I would say use Vitex though out the cycle and the Bromo only as a last resort and at low doses. It has a half-life of 50 hrs. So I would start with 1.25 EOD and work your way up as needed. Not more than 2.5 ED and stopping if bad sides occur.
 
Nolvadex and/or arimidex may help prevent gyno from Deca. Many people either are not aware, or forget, that Deca is a substrate for aromatase and can be converted to estrogen (1) (2). Obviously they will not prevent any possible effects progesterone/prolactin might have on causing gyno.

(1) J Steroid Biochem 1989 Nov;33(5):949-54
Androgen and 19-norandrogen aromatization by equine and human placental microsomes.
Dintinger T, Gaillard JL, Moslemi S, Zwain I, Silberzahn P.

(2) 1: Nippon Naibunpi Gakkai Zasshi 1986 Jan 20;62(1):18-25
[Aromatization of androstenedione and 19-nortestosterone in human placenta, liver and adipose tissues]
Yoshiji S, Yamamoto T, Okada H.
 
So what does everyone think about taking Arimidex with the Deca. I am considering a 300mg week Deca cycle with some Dbol for first five weeks and stanol V the last five weeks. Of course test will be in there too, but I wasn't sure what to use for the gyno...I was thinking arimidex???
 
would something like sust or test cyp, prop, or enth be the best thing to stack with deca if you don't want the retarded sides?
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

B
best way to use deca without deca dick worries
Replies
22
Views
2K
Noah Wixx
Noah Wixx
D
Test/deca/oral cycle
Replies
21
Views
3K
Noah Wixx
Noah Wixx
JackSmithBoye
Deca, Sustanon And PCT Questions. *First Cycle*
Replies
11
Views
2K
dylangemelli
dylangemelli
L
Lady is needing advice on supplements?
Replies
19
Views
2K
SSFITNESS
SSFITNESS
GMAN007
Future Bulking Cycle - Testosterone Cypionate / Nandrolone Decanoate
Replies
21
Views
3K
the_alcatraz
the_alcatraz
Top Bottom