Deca/Gyno Symptoms??

[nomad05]

Alright bro's only 4 weeks into the following;

Test E 750mg/week (weeks 1-14)
Deca 400mg/week (weeks 1-12)
Test Prop 75/day (weeks 1-4)
AIFM 2pumps/twice a day-

only 3 weeks in & my nips got sensitive, not itchy but I can feel something. Let me say I have slight gyno from years ago (thank you prohormones) so there are already some lumps. I have run 3 different cycles in the past few years with Test as a base & no problems. have run the AIFM & Ldex & both worked fine. Damn maybe I am sensitive as hell to progesterone & the Nandrolones...

ANy thoughts on what to do now?

1.) Drop the Deca totally, replace w/EQ?
2.) Add nolva & see if it helps? (some say this is a no no w/Deca)
3.) Add Dostinex?

Trust me its not pyschological, & sex drive is A ok...but the nipples are def feeling different than usual- sorry for the rant but I am pissed cause I think I gotta drop the Deca

Thanks,
Nomad

 

[oxymed]

Damn bro.......that sucks....im running very similar cycle....... test-c, deca, and dbol.....AIFM 2pumps 2x a day and having no problems......but i would drop the deca also if gyno was coming on .......not worth it.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

you are probably sensitive to progestins.

what pro-hormones did you get gyno from?

dont add nolva if you think the deca is responsible.

you can also try light application directly to the site (some people have reported good results with this)- remember to exfoliate and rub in well.

 

[nomad05]

you are probably sensitive to progestins.

what pro-hormones did you get gyno from?

dont add nolva if you think the deca is responsible.

you can also try light application directly to the site (some people have reported good results with this)- remember to exfoliate and rub in well.

Thanks Mac, not sure which pro-hormones (it was 8+ yrs ago) not real noticable but enough...at the time I didn't have elite or other resources so when the itching started I didnt' know WTF was happening.

I thought that was the case as far as adding Nolva...I will drop the Deca & see what happens if it subsides then I will know it was the Deca...damn just didn't think the progesterone sensitivity could hit so fast

 

[rg78]

If your not sure whats causing the gyno then i would add the nolva, I had sensitive nipples at the start of my cycle and adding nolva has gotten rid of the problem.

Cycle is sust, deca and drol

 

[chazk]

Alright bro's only 4 weeks into the following;

Test E 750mg/week (weeks 1-14)
Deca 400mg/week (weeks 1-12)
Test Prop 75/day (weeks 1-4)
AIFM 2pumps/twice a day-

only 3 weeks in & my nips got sensitive, not itchy but I can feel something. Let me say I have slight gyno from years ago (thank you prohormones) so there are already some lumps. I have run 3 different cycles in the past few years with Test as a base & no problems. have run the AIFM & Ldex & both worked fine. Damn maybe I am sensitive as hell to progesterone & the Nandrolones...

ANy thoughts on what to do now?

1.) Drop the Deca totally, replace w/EQ?
2.) Add nolva & see if it helps? (some say this is a no no w/Deca)
3.) Add Dostinex?

Trust me its not pyschological, & sex drive is A ok...but the nipples are def feeling different than usual- sorry for the rant but I am pissed cause I think I gotta drop the Deca

Thanks,
Nomad

from your cycle it looks as it will clear up during week 5 when the amount gets lowered and you drop the prop, i mean you are on 750mg of test enath with 75mg of prop a day thats over a gram of testosterone a week thats is pretty high .i would use letro or maybe increase the aifm to 4 pumps twice a day.
one thing I have noticed as my body ages the steroids affect me diff 10 years ago I could use high amounts of test 500mg a week no conversion maybe slightly, now i'm 29 and its a diff story its as the test converts to estrogen faster 500mg and id would be in bra.so your past 3 cycles dont help much becuase your body for some reason might be producing more of the enzyme that converts test to estrogen.your not over weight by any chance are you high body fat equals high estrogen enzymes.from what i have read guys that are leaner and already below 10% bf dont seem to have has much estrogen conversion then guys with 15% bf or higher. becuase everytime someone on this board has the start of gyno its seems they reply the body fat was higher or they had a layoff and just started lifting again.

just some input maybe help may not. as far as the deca you could drop it down to 200mg a week. Or switch over to EQ being a testosterone dirived roid you should be ok using the nolvadex with it .but dont expect much at first i am on eq running at 600mg a week now at week 6 its starting to take hold and i'm harder and leaner and my weight is up about 12lbs sense week 2-3 and people are looking at me different and some one at the grocery store said oh shit that dudes fucking deisel.I am pleased with eq and love it now .
my cycle is 600mg of eq ,125mg of test and 150mg of deca. i can honestly say its quality no fat gain no water no bloat just lean body mass gains stomach stays small .unlike test at over 500mg (got up to a gram once for 4 weeks) made me look like a powerlifter marshmellow monster.
depends on your goals mine is to have a lean face and little if any water retention and have more of a arnold in terminator2 look .The eq is def giving me that look its good shit

 

[AhMadKooL]

If the gyno is from the deca use some dostinex

 

[nomad05]

from your cycle it looks as it will clear up during week 5 when the amount gets lowered and you drop the prop, i mean you are on 750mg of test enath with 75mg of prop a day thats over a gram of testosterone a week thats is pretty high .i would use letro or maybe increase the aifm to 4 pumps twice a day.
one thing I have noticed as my body ages the steroids affect me diff 10 years ago I could use high amounts of test 500mg a week no conversion maybe slightly, now i'm 29 and its a diff story its as the test converts to estrogen faster 500mg and id would be in bra.so your past 3 cycles dont help much becuase your body for some reason might be producing more of the enzyme that converts test to estrogen.your not over weight by any chance are you high body fat equals high estrogen enzymes.from what i have read guys that are leaner and already below 10% bf dont seem to have has much estrogen conversion then guys with 15% bf or higher. becuase everytime someone on this board has the start of gyno its seems they reply the body fat was higher or they had a layoff and just started lifting again.

just some input maybe help may not. as far as the deca you could drop it down to 200mg a week. Or switch over to EQ being a testosterone dirived roid you should be ok using the nolvadex with it .but dont expect much at first i am on eq running at 600mg a week now at week 6 its starting to take hold and i'm harder and leaner and my weight is up about 12lbs sense week 2-3 and people are looking at me different and some one at the grocery store said oh shit that dudes fucking deisel.I am pleased with eq and love it now .
my cycle is 600mg of eq ,125mg of test and 150mg of deca. i can honestly say its quality no fat gain no water no bloat just lean body mass gains stomach stays small .unlike test at over 500mg (got up to a gram once for 4 weeks) made me look like a powerlifter marshmellow monster.
depends on your goals mine is to have a lean face and little if any water retention and have more of a arnold in terminator2 look .The eq is def giving me that look its good shit

Thanks a ton for the input ChazK...not high BF at all but you may be right on the amount of test, never run it this high. First few cycles of Test I was so paranoid of gyno I had aromasin & Nolva running throughout...guess I felt I was immune to the estro conversion...I really wish I could determine whether it's the Deca or the Test...Maybe hit the Anti-E's hard for a week to 10 days & if it doesnt subside then I know its the Deca? Or just say F#CK it & drop it altogether. Next scheduled Deca shot it Tuesday so I will watch it...also I will drop the prop since the longer ester should be kicking in by now

Thanks again- K 4 U