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Deca Dick---Will I recover?

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DFF777

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I finished up an 8 week cycle comprised of 6 weeks ALL Deca and 4 weeks EQ back in August.

I followed up with a proper PCT of HCG and Nolvadex, but my libido has YET to return!

To clarify, I'm not impotent, I just have NO desire for sex---which is very, very frustrating.

It's been over six months, and I'm beginning to seriously wonder if my sex drive is ever going to return.

I had my Total Test levels checked back in Dec, and they were little on the low side (200), but I was producing.

I'm considering going back and getting a full spectrum of tests done, but I think that may be a waist of time and money, and I'm better off just sitting it out and crossing my fingers.

After all, WTF can they do for me if they find elevated Progesterone or Prolactin levels?

I imagine they'd just shrug their shoulders.

Anyway, basically I just wanna know from someone who's experienced the same thing as me what kinda odds I'm looking at here.

Basically, am I perma-f**cked, or am I gonna eventually recover?

BTW...this was my first cycle since I was 23...I'm 31 now...I never had this issue with an all Deca cycle before...and furthermore, before perusing these boards, I had never heard the term "Deca Dick" either. Had I, I wouldn't have touched the sh*t with a ten foot pole. My whole purpose for using Deca in the first place was I "thought" it was a safe compound. How wrong I was. A friend, who's only 23, did the exact same cycle. His libido's jacked as well.
 
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Get some Test - do about a gram a week for as long as it takes, then do some PCT.

Seriously, you may have a hormonal imbalance of sorts...

You are 31, maybe HRT is in the plan...

Or, maybe your gay. Do you desire cock at all?
 
all you need to do is get some proviron. i had this exact thing happen to me, went limp then couldnt nut for months no joke. tried dostinex its junk imo. test made it worse cause it shut me down more. proviron 100mg in one night i was back. then stay on 50mg ed till needed
 
I allready said I was producing Test...only thing using Test will accomplish is shutting my HPTA down even more. And no, I'm not gay. Stupid mofo.
 
yes no test its just gonna make it worse. listen to me, get on proviron right away. also get some clomid and hcg to get those testes pumpin up again
 
Proviron...heard that stuff mentioned quite a bit. Never tried it though. As far as HCG; I did some coming off, but have been encouraged by others to not use anymore since I'm producing Test. I know it gets the wood up though...quick. But there are mixed feelings about in the bodybuilding community, like potentially desensitizing the Leydig cells to LH. I wouldn't want that! Clomid unfortunately doesn't jive with me. I took some awhile back and had some nasty sides (vision problems, upset stomach), so for SERMS; I only use Nolva. Thought about adding a tiny bit of Arimidex (like .25) to the last week of my PCT, but never did.
 
yea no more hcg then. just clomid, if you can't handle it then get some nolva and run it 60mg ed. aromasin 20mg ed will do some good as well no arimidex its outdated. yes proviron is great for libido, it is the original viagra but it boosts free test and sensation is usually increased as well. it is also good at producing sperm so you'll blow huge loads. just get on it man, it will help you in your situation, its not a tough one to fix
 
I'll definatley look into it.

Chemicals aside though; what are my chances of fully recovering naturally?

I'd really prefer to go this route, cuz' at this stage, I'm kinda leary of using anymore drugs.

But if more PCT is an absolute necessity in order to recover libido; I'll do it, no questions asked.
 
well if you want your dick to work in my experience i had to hop on proviron to get it to work. you can try and let it come back. proviorn is more of a sex drug.
 
How long were you shut down? And how hard (no pun intended)? Myself, I can still get an erection; the desire is what's missing.
 
DFF777 said:
I'll definatley look into it.

Chemicals aside though; what are my chances of fully recovering naturally?

I'd really prefer to go this route, cuz' at this stage, I'm kinda leary of using anymore drugs.

But if more PCT is an absolute necessity in order to recover libido; I'll do it, no questions asked.
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If you don't want to do a full blown PCT. Then you should at least use clomid to get your libido back.
 
dostinex, nolva, and HCG is the route that would help me here. Throwing some igf-1 in the mix is also something that could help. Proviron sounds very promising as well, just as a short term answer while you get yourself going to the point that you no longer need it. Good Luck man, I think if you attack this problem properly you have a good chance of success.
 
Dostinex and/or Proviron combined with a solid HCG/Clomid PCT should work wonders- it did for me bro, because I certainly HATED deca as well but it was a learning experience
 
Thanks for the advice guys, but for now, I'm gonna opt to play it safe, and take the Physican's approach of "First do no harm" (in this case, potentially doing anymore harm), by getting my hormone levels checked. I ordered a panel of tests online - Total Test, Free Test, FSH, LH, E2, and Progesterone (which I SUSPECT is the primary culprit behind my woes). When I get my results back, which should be within a few days, I'll decide then what my next move is...or be even more confused than I allready am. lol
 
DFF777 said:
I'll definatley look into it.

Chemicals aside though; what are my chances of fully recovering naturally?

I'd really prefer to go this route, cuz' at this stage, I'm kinda leary of using anymore drugs.

But if more PCT is an absolute necessity in order to recover libido; I'll do it, no questions asked.
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can i know more about your cycle? how much deca ? was NPP?
 
It was weaker than f**k (but ostensibly plenty potent to give me sweet ass Ramen noodle):

150 mgs Deca for two weeks, 300 for four, and 150 again for last two.

Then, 200 mgs EQ for a month to allow the Deca to clear from my system in order to prevent interference with HCG.

PCT...5000 iu's of HCG once ever five days for fifteen days...20 mgs Nolva for 4 weeks, taper to 10 in week five, 5 in week six.

And yes, I know this was an assload of HCG, but this was the first cycle I'd done since 98', and the school of thought at that time was 5000 was considered a little high, but no big deal. Especially after coming off a long, 12 week cycle.

Now, I hear mixed things. Some think this much can desensitize your Leydig cells, and most espouse 500 iu's every 5 days for fifteen days. Personally, this seems like a weak ass dose to me, but what do I know.

I mean, after all, I've got f**ckin' DECA DICK!!! HaHaHa!!!!!! *runs away madly whilst pulling out hair screaming "What a world! What a world!"*
 
look man dostinex and all of that shit is unnecessary. if you want your libido back take some proviron and clomid. the proviron is instant help, clomid will slowly bring back your natural libido. i could get it up fine, i even had a libido, i could not nut. it happens from deca and it sucks ass. just fix the problem its not a tough one, if you had gyno i'd understand the two pages of thread
 
bruce410 said:
yea no more hcg then. just clomid, if you can't handle it then get some nolva and run it 60mg ed. aromasin 20mg ed will do some good as well no arimidex its outdated. yes proviron is great for libido, it is the original viagra but it boosts free test and sensation is usually increased as well. it is also good at producing sperm so you'll blow huge loads. just get on it man, it will help you in your situation, its not a tough one to fix
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lol @ blow huge loads...my pct with clomid 100mg ED for 10 days i was like peter north, I came 2-3 times the normal amount and it tickled at the end so i would laugh..my girlfriend said it made my dick evil :mix:
 
Yes


HGC
Clomid

PRAY

It just takes time even if you do nothing.

Of course 3-4 weeks on sust will get you back in the libido area.
 
Look, get your bloodwork again and see what's up (no pun intended)... I agree with most everyone else to do another solid PCT... this time, run a much lower dose of HCG... 500iu for 10 days... 50mg ED Clomid for 2-4 weeks... and run an AI with that too to keep estrogen from spiking (AIFM or Aromasin will work nicely)... as Ulter stated, the "AM Dbol method" will help give you that nice little boost while your body is recovering, otherwise Proviron is definitely the way to go...it's minimally suppressive and it will kick-start your libido.

And for future reference, never run deca without test!!!! Deca isn't as bad as some people think, but it can be if you don't run test with it. Always run test longer than deca, then do a good PCT as outlined above.

Good luck!
 
DFF777 said:
And no, I'm not gay. Stupid mofo.
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al420 said:
Stuipd people do Deca only cycles and break their peckers
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Amen to that shit.

And Deca and EQ in the same cycle... *shiver*. Might as well throw some Tren in that mix next time and REALLY fuck yourself up!
:jenscat
 
I think it's important to note that age and genetics play a huge role. You could be in your early 20's and do nothing but Deca for 12 weeks and still get hard months after with no PCT if you are one of those lucky people. On the other hand, some people get limp just looking at deca, despite HCG, clomid, nolv and/or proviron. Either way, it will always get better with time.
 
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking will eventually happen, but I've read of few cases where people got PERMANENT Deca Dick. This is what I'm afraid of. And knowing now Deca is essentially a progesterone, which is the stuff used to chemically castraste sex offenders, doesn't ease my concerns any.
 
Ulter said:
If I were you I would...

Take 10mg/day of dbol upon rising each morning.
Take 50mg/day of Proviron
Shoot 1000iu/day of HCG for the first week and then switch to Clomid for two weeks.

Re-evaluate in 5 weeks.
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very good call... 50-75mg of proviron and 500-1000iu/day of HCG should do it. Next time always run your cycles with a little testosterone (250-500mg) and if you run deca again get some anti-prolactin drugs such as Cabergoline or Selegiline.
 
bruce410 said:
look man dostinex and all of that shit is unnecessary. if you want your libido back take some proviron and clomid. the proviron is instant help, clomid will slowly bring back your natural libido. i could get it up fine, i even had a libido, i could not nut. it happens from deca and it sucks ass. just fix the problem its not a tough one, if you had gyno i'd understand the two pages of thread
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This is about the only good advice in this column. I will let you know that I don't pull punches and I'm not afraid of being banned. I don't care if you're a mod with a bunch of advertisements and a screen where you have to scroll over to read. I don't give a fuck. Hey, df77, or whatever the handle is, do not, I repeat, DO NOT use 1000iu's of HCG a day. Unless you are using it along with test, you are going to fuck yourself worse. Seems like a lot of people on this board are in the dark ages about HCG and it is truly funny. HCG is to be used during cycle ONLY to prepare your body for a more feasible and attainable PCT with Nolva and Clomid after cycle is done. I don't care what you guy's have to say about what docttors do or have read in a medical journal. This protocol is what is used by pros. Don't believe me, PM me and I will turn you onto someone who trains several top IFBB pros and I'll let him give you the lowdown. I'm done.
 
Look at my karma. That is funny as hell. I always did think that was a joke.
 
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