Deca/Dbol cycle stack for first cycle ?

[musclemuscle]

I weigh 183pds
am five foot nine inches
26 years old

Been lifting past six years

Deca 300mg/wk and Dbol 15mg/day

what do you all think?

 

[musclemuscle]

This is a roid board isn't it?

 

[Bruce]

i think you should do 600mg of deca a week minimum with that drug. however, i think if you don't get deca dick, you should use it alone. i just put on 20 solid pounds and kept it cause pct is so easy with deca only. however, if you get deca dick, run test enth 500 a week alone. its not so good to stack first cycle. u gotta see what one compound does to you as far as gains and libido, and mainly gyno

 

[UFC22]

I think thats a good first cycle. Many people will tell you to add test though, so you might want to run it along with your deca. I have done a deca only cycle and added a good 8 lbs of lean muscle. I went up to 400mg though, but im sure you will be fine at 300mg. How many weeks do you plan on running your deca and dbol? Usually you want to do your d-bol the first 4-6 wks untill the deca kicks in. My stats were similar to yours when i started. When you start a cycle make sure you have ur PCT on hand and HCG since you may need it mid-cycle. Also you might need nolva if your prone to gyno, but at that low dose i doubt anything will happen at all.
Since this is your first cycle how bout you just run some test like (sus,cyp,enanthate) and jumpstart it with the dbol? For any long ester i would say to stay on for about 12wks. Any more info, just ask and someone will answer. Just be smart about it and dont be totally clueless.

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

I weigh 183pds
am five foot nine inches
26 years old

Been lifting past six years

Deca 300mg/wk and Dbol 15mg/day

what do you all think?

I wouldn't do deca/dbol your first cycle
Start with Test. Then do a test/dbol or test/deca

 

[novice ck]

deca isnt effective at 300mg a week?

 

[UFC22]

bruce410 - 600mg of deca to start out? I think he should keep it steady for his first cycle maximum being 400mg. If he eats right he will see great gains just off that. So if he experiences Deca dik your telling him to run 500mg of test. Altogether that would be over a gram for his first cycle. I personally dont think its a great idea, but everyone is different. I mean naturally your body only makes less than 100mg of test a week.

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

deca isnt effective at 300mg a week?

"Let Bruce Bruce hit it"
What he's saying that it is more effective for him a 600. He doesn't get the deca noodle either, so that's another reason he likes it. It's a choice you have to make, either you're dick will be outta work for 10 weeks or add some test to keep your girl smiling.

 

[nutsnack]

I wouldn't do deca/dbol your first cycle
Start with Test. Then do a test/dbol or test/deca

just about everyone is going to tell you to run a test only cycle on your first cycle being that you will see great results and learn how your body will react to these "new" substances.. keep track of all your sides during your first cycle for later use.. BUT if you are stuck on deca/dbol i think you need to up the dosage of deca.. 300 would be effective for your first cycle but i personally think its low IMO.. also you might want to consider the side effects you could get running a deca cycle.. Deca dick would be good to know, its good enough to keep me away from the deca alone!! Also know that deca will stay in your system for a long time so if you have the possibility of being tested watch out.. Other then that invest alot in protein mixes cuz you will need it and a good diet to see some good gains!

 

[idcbp]

While I'm glad my bro Bruce had an easy recovery from Deca, thats FAR from the rule. Deca can be one of the hardest drugs to recover from and it often takes alot of time. Your numbers are low regardless. No, you shouldn't go balls to the wall, but make that first cycle count. I'd avoid deca in combo with dbol b/c you will be facing gyno possibly on two fronts. Regular estro. gyno from dbol and progest. gyno from deca. When the nips start acting up good luck determining what the cause is, or better yet piss away endless cash on treating all possibilities.

My solution...lose the deca and stack dbol and any longer acting test. You didn't include durations for the cycle or individual compounds so I'm assuming you haven't hashed that part out. I'd shoot for the first 4-6weeks on the dbol along with the test, but run the test for an additional 6-8 weeks. Total time on 10-14 depending on how you play it. If you want to go conservative run the dbol at 20mg daily and the test at 250mg per week, more amped bump the dbol to 25-30mg daily and run the test at 250mg when on the dbol and 500mg when its solo, or even 500 the whole way. Good luck and get your self some serious time logged in the PCT forum. Jenetic=right in that world. Learn and grow.

 

[musclemuscle]

PCT forum?

 

[shamrock11]

I'm running my first cycle with deca at 400mg/week and I have gained 15 pounds of LBM in seven weeks. I still have three weeks to go. I have no bad sides from it and I think it's a good first cycle, although you may have to worry about deca dick. I would run 400mg a week alone and see how your body reacts to it.

 

[novice ck]

no bro.....my second cycle is going to consist of 500 mg a week of sust and i was planning on 300mg a week of deca........should i expect gains off of a cycle like that or should i up the deca?

 

[Bruce]

bruce410 - 600mg of deca to start out? I think he should keep it steady for his first cycle maximum being 400mg. If he eats right he will see great gains just off that. So if he experiences Deca dik your telling him to run 500mg of test. Altogether that would be over a gram for his first cycle. I personally dont think its a great idea, but everyone is different. I mean naturally your body only makes less than 100mg of test a week.

no way, i am saying if he don't wanna do the deca alone, he should run test enth alone at 500 a week, i think he should stay with one compound, see how body reacts

 

[Bruce]

i think bad deca side effects have a lot to do with aging. i am 24 but look real young and my test levels are naturally very high still like im 18 my doc says. so that could be the reason that my body doesn't get raped by the deca. but i will say the depression of progesterone around week 11-12 is no fun, but i man up, take some benzos and its all good. i'll let you know in a couple weeks if i lose anything i gained. don't think i will tough

 

[UFC22]

Same here Bruce thats why the deca didnt rape me with its hard recovery.