Deca/ D-bol stack

[pdaddy]

I am about to start this cycle, I would appreciate any constructive feedback. Here's a littel background info. This is my third cycle, second including d-bol(which I get great results from). I'm 6'1" at 195 lbs. w/ around 10-13%bf. Any suggestions for PHT or mg. changes would be helpful. Thanks!




Week Deca mg/week Dianabol mg/day - Twice a day


1 100 2 * 20

2 200 2 * 25

3 300 2 * 25

4 400 2 * 25

5 400 2 * 15

6 300 -

7 200 -

8 100 -

 

[sweed]

have u used deca before.. i ask becase some like to use test with deca to help with the libido. also, no need to ramp up and down. if u want to get up tp 400 mgs, start with 400 and end with 400. also extend cycle to at least 10 weeks. same with dbol stay at same dosage every week. I gotta ask how old u are and how long u have been training.
the PCT forum has Jenetics sticky where u can find a good pct protocol.
also dostinex on hand would be useful

 

[pdaddy]

Well I have been training for about six years. I have a great foundation for putting on a good 15-20 lbs. of lean muscle with the right cycle. I have a very good metabolism and have never had a bf more than 15%. You could say that I'm blessed with good genetics. This is why I'm a little wary of over-doing it. Oh yea, I'm 26 years of age. I am on a budget as well, as I'm sure most of us are.

Yes, I have read that pyramiding is a waste of time, I just wasn't sure as to the validity of that statement. Is there any good over the counter pht that you would recommend?

 

[ChefJ]

You should run a test only first cycle around 500mgs per week. Test Enanthate is perfect in this situation.

 

[pdaddy]

You should run a test only first cycle around 500mgs per week. Test Enanthate is perfect in this situation.

You think I should completly scratch the deca/d-bol stack and just do the test? Or are you saying that I should run a cycle of test right before the deca/d-bol?

 

[LVTitan]

well this isnt your first cycle so play around with the deca/dbol. i am curious to do this one myself. i've not run deca w/out test before, but i love deca.
yeah the ramping is old school, w/deca you might want to maybe taper the last week to half, since you will have quite a build up in your system w/a long ester.
and yeah, run the cycle longer, deca is a slow acting compound.

how much deca do you have ? how much dbol do you have ?

 

[pdaddy]

well this isnt your first cycle so play around with the deca/dbol. i am curious to do this one myself. i've not run deca w/out test before, but i love deca.
yeah the ramping is old school, w/deca you might want to maybe taper the last week to half, since you will have quite a build up in your system w/a long ester.
and yeah, run the cycle longer, deca is a slow acting compound.

how much deca do you have ? how much dbol do you have ?

Well, I'm putting the order in tomorrow, I wanted to get some feedback before putting it in. Right now I'm planning on 10 amps deca @200mg and 400 tabs of 5mg. d-bol. My friend has also offered to throw in some winny for VERY cheap, not sure how I'd work that in yet though.

This is my first stacking cycle, I know I want to use d-bol b/c I got amazing results on that alone, very curious how much the deca will enhance the results.

 

[ruggermu]

Bro I got pretty good results from what I considered a pretty low dose Deca cycle, but no where near that low(100). I would say get more deca and run it at least 300-400 a week for 10 weeks.

 

[pdaddy]

Bro I got pretty good results from what I considered a pretty low dose Deca cycle, but no where near that low(100). I would say get more deca and run it at least 300-400 a week for 10 weeks.

What did you use for PHT on this cycle and how much of your gains were you able to maintain?

Would you still recommend upping the deca if winny was thrown in the mix?

 

[LVTitan]

What did you use for PHT on this cycle and how much of your gains were you able to maintain?

Would you still recommend upping the deca if winny was thrown in the mix?

first off bro, i think you mean "pct" unless pht is something i ain't heard of.

next, if each amp is 200mg/deca (what brand? 2ml vial maybe?) then get 20 amps so you can shoot 200mg deca/week. each week. no taper.
deca/dbol were practically made for each other.
how's this look ...
1-10 deca 200mg
1-4 dbol 20mg/day (roughly hundred pills i think)
9-12 winny 50mg/day

week 11-12 you will be waiting for the esters from deca to clear your system so stay on the winny, then you can go directly into pct the day after your last winny tab....
hope this helps bro...

 

[pdaddy]

first off bro, i think you mean "pct" unless pht is something i ain't heard of.

next, if each amp is 200mg/deca (what brand? 2ml vial maybe?) then get 20 amps so you can shoot 200mg deca/week. each week. no taper.
deca/dbol were practically made for each other.
how's this look ...
1-10 deca 200mg
1-4 dbol 20mg/day (roughly hundred pills i think)
9-12 winny 50mg/day

week 11-12 you will be waiting for the esters from deca to clear your system so stay on the winny, then you can go directly into pct the day after your last winny tab....
hope this helps bro...

Yea this looks like a good cycle, I'll have to give it a try. Much appreciated!
I'll let you all know how it's comming along, should be starting it in about a week. Thanks again for all the good feedback.