Deca Cycle

[deetz27]

I have a 10 mil bottle of Nandrolone 200 mg/ml and a 10 ml bottle of Equipoise 50 mg/ml.. Is it a complete waste to stack these two? Someone told me I need something more androgenic.. This is my first so I dont know much

 

[Outtlaw]

You dont have enough of either to make a worthwhile cycle. You need at least another vial of deca, and you might as well chuck the eq cause at 50mg/ml you'd have to inject too much of it.

 

[Raffaz]

Not enough info, give us some stats, training history and cycle history etc. Cheers

Mick

 

[deetz27]

Its my first cycle ever.. but Ive been workin out hard for about 2 1/2 years now... Do you think adding something like D-bol would help?

 

[deetz27]

I'm only 5'10" 185 so I'm not a big guy either...

 

[Raffaz]

IMO i would just use test for ya first cycle, you need to see how you react to each compound before ya start mixing them up.

Mick

 

[Outtlaw]

Its my first cycle ever.. but Ive been workin out hard for about 2 1/2 years now... Do you think adding something like D-bol would help?

The best thing you can do is add more deca. Since it's your 1st cycle you might get something out of 200mg/wk, but that's very low. I think you need to do at least 300mg/wk of the deca.

 

[deetz27]

Well this makes me sound like an idiot but Ive already taken about 3 ml of the deca in the past two weeks.. sorry I forgot to say so

 

[Outtlaw]

You need to do more research. You are essentially wasting your gear. You dont have enough gear to make a decent cycle. End of story. You cant add nothing to nothing and get something. 0 + 0= 0 You can get some dbol and make gains off that, but why you would do that and not get more deca is beyond me.

 

[crunkjuice]

a hypothetical ?...what if you had a 10ml of 250mg/ml deca, would a 10 week 250mg (2x weekly injections, 125mg per shot) be the most productive. or would it be better to go at a higher dose per week for 6 or 8 weeks and finish with some winny? I know most bros are going to say just get more deca, but which of these two options would produce more gains? Low dose 10wk duration, or say a higher dose 6 week duration with 4 weeks of winny starting the day of the last shot?

 

[Outtlaw]

a hypothetical ?...what if you had a 10ml of 250mg/ml deca, would a 10 week 250mg (2x weekly injections, 125mg per shot) be the most productive. or would it be better to go at a higher dose per week for 6 or 8 weeks and finish with some winny? I know most bros are going to say just get more deca, but which of these two options would produce more gains? Low dose 10wk duration, or say a higher dose 6 week duration with 4 weeks of winny starting the day of the last shot?

250mg/wk deca on a 1st cycle should be enough for you to get something out of it. I dont believe in running deca for less than 8wks. If you have to do that then npp is the way to go.

 

[deetz27]

Thanks Outlaw, you obviously know what your talkin about, and I appreciate your advice.. This stuffs expensive and hard to get but Im gonna try to get 10 ml more deca and take about 400 ml per week (will this cause deca-dick?).. Maybe after it I could finish with a couple bottles of equipoise?

 

[crunkjuice]

Outlaw thanks for the input... Would someone would need to be concerned with progesterone gyno from such a low dose of Deca? From what I have read that shouldnt be an issue with such a low dose, but I am of the mindset that you should have everything on hand that you will need before you start a cycle. so basically my ? is dostinex a good idea or not nessecary?

 

[deetz27]

Also, Outlaw what about 300 ml/week deca for 8 weeks and then finish with two 10 ml bottles of equipoise?

 

[Outtlaw]

Outlaw thanks for the input... Would someone would need to be concerned with progesterone gyno from such a low dose of Deca? From what I have read that shouldnt be an issue with such a low dose, but I am of the mindset that you should have everything on hand that you will need before you start a cycle. so basically my ? is dostinex a good idea or not nessecary?

Probably not necessary, but I'd rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it.

 

[Outtlaw]

Also, Outlaw what about 300 ml/week deca for 8 weeks and then finish with two 10 ml bottles of equipoise?

That'll work. The eq needs to be run at 400mg, so it's probably better to save it for another cycle.

 

[deetz27]

Hey outlaw I did some research and you are right.. Im getting another 10 ml 200mg/ml bottle of deca... What would you recommend I stack with it as a cutter?

 

[Outtlaw]

Hey outlaw I did some research and you are right.. Im getting another 10 ml 200mg/ml bottle of deca... What would you recommend I stack with it as a cutter?

Id use the eq to cut with instead of the deca. Deca is better suited for bulking.

 

[deetz27]

Cool thanks man.. Hey, would test enanthate stack better with one or the other?... Also, do you know what the average doses per week for test enanthate is?

 

[Outtlaw]

Enanthate can be stacked with either. As far as average dose, that depends on the person. I'd say the normal dose for beginners to intermediate cyclers would be 500mg/wk.