deca and winnie aka stanazol

[johny_45]

is a cycle of deca 300mg and winnie or stanazol as its also know, good enough to run together?

if so what dosages of each and hwo long for?

 

[solidspine]

Yes, but not as a first cycle, or without test

 

[johny_45]

can you tell me why everyone says that? why is test so important with deca?

and how much test per week and how often?

 

[AhMadKooL]

can you tell me why everyone says that? why is test so important with deca?

and how much test per week and how often?

you need test so that your libdo won't be shutdown by the deca.

A good test/deca/winny cycle is as follows:

week 1 - 12 test 500 mg /week split into 2 shots per week
week 1 - 10 deca 400 mg /week split into 2 shots per week
week 8 - 12 winny 50 mg ED

anti-gyno: AIFM and Dostinex

PCT: AIFM, Clomid and HCG

 

[johny_45]

you need test so that your libdo won't be shutdown by the deca.

A good test/deca/winny cycle is as follows:

week 1 - 12 test 500 mg /week split into 2 shots per week
week 1 - 10 deca 400 mg /week split into 2 shots per week
week 8 - 12 winny 50 mg ED

anti-gyno: AIFM and Dostinex

PCT: AIFM, Clomid and HCG

hey thanks for all that info...know of any names of test in aussie land? vet products? thats all i can get

or will sus 250 suffice as test?

 

[littleguy]

Sust 250 is test .............250 mg per ml that's the 250 part.
cheers

 

[immortalis]

can you tell me why everyone says that? why is test so important with deca?

and how much test per week and how often?

Because Deca, if you are prone to the sides which a lot of people arent, are NASTY. The dreaded Deca-Dick is what every man in his right mind would want to avoid like the plague... unless for some reason you are in the minority and really dont feel like busting a nut for 3+ months after your cycle is over. Me personally, i like my sexlife hehe.

So most people run some Test with it to help combat this. You wont know if you are one of the people who gets shutdown hard by Deca until you do it, but I wouldn't take the chance on running it without test to find out.

Dosage all depends on your goals and how much Deca youre going to be taking.

 

[johny_45]

Because Deca, if you are prone to the sides which a lot of people arent, are NASTY. The dreaded Deca-Dick is what every man in his right mind would want to avoid like the plague... unless for some reason you are in the minority and really dont feel like busting a nut for 3+ months after your cycle is over. Me personally, i like my sexlife hehe.

So most people run some Test with it to help combat this. You wont know if you are one of the people who gets shutdown hard by Deca until you do it, but I wouldn't take the chance on running it without test to find out.

Dosage all depends on your goals and how much Deca youre going to be taking.

Thanks for your help

is enanthate or sus better?

i can get either but enanthate sounds a bit harsher,,,,and how do you combat the sus flu? will the deca help that?

 

[ricorico]

enthate is just as good and often cheaper....and i think Deca/winni is a decent novice cycle.....ive ran deca like 7 times and never got deca dick, and i was doing over 400mgs a week every time

 

[johny_45]

enthate is just as good and often cheaper....and i think Deca/winni is a decent novice cycle.....ive ran deca like 7 times and never got deca dick, and i was doing over 400mgs a week every time

i think i will be running the sus/deca cycle

twice a week pokes should be ok ?

 

[ricorico]

yea, you could even get away with 1 a week, but 2 is recommended

 

[glover]

They are good to run together. I am running 200mg NPP EOD and 50mg Winny ED for six weeks. If your worried about the Deca dick add some prop at the end of the cycle. This in combination with pct and you will be fine. Deca won't give as much bloat and acne as test. It is a good base for those who like it. Good luck!

 

[Big_Joe]

How about posting some stats. Like age weight height years lifting that sort of thing.