Deca and Nolvadex

[nickdentist]

Why is it that everyone says NOT to run nolvadex while taking deca? What are some other options then?

 

[shootfighter1975]

Well assuming you are worried about progesterone induced gyno, some helpful bros on here told me if the Deca dose isn't super high, 200 mg daily of Vitamin B6 can keep it in check..... Otherwise, I believe AG Guys has Dostinex.... I'm pretty sure that's the drug to combat that but I could be wrong.

 

[mrplunkey]

Dostinex is to Deca as Nolvadex is to Testosterone.

Learn it. Live it.

 

[nickdentist]

Dostinex?? Never heard of it. What is that?

 

[nydj66]

Why is it that everyone says NOT to run nolvadex while taking deca? What are some other options then?

Here's my opinion:

If you develop gyno or want to prevent gyno while on deca then it's fine to take nolvadex. Deca does aromatize to estrogen and elevated estrogen is required for gyno. Progestins can aggravate it but estrogen is still the root cause.

Besides, nolvadex does offer some blocking of progesterone receptors so it's still the go-to drug when you develop gyno on a cycle.

 

[nickdentist]

Can arimidex be ran in cycle instead of nolvadex?

 

[Ulter]

Here's my opinion:

If you develop gyno or want to prevent gyno while on deca then it's fine to take nolvadex. Deca does aromatize to estrogen and elevated estrogen is required for gyno. Progestins can aggravate it but estrogen is still the root cause.

Besides, nolvadex does offer some blocking of progesterone receptors so it's still the go-to drug when you develop gyno on a cycle.

No, clinical studies have shown that nolva will increase the side effects of progesterone. It should not be used with deca or any other progestin.

 

[Mr.X]

Can arimidex be ran in cycle instead of nolvadex?

what kind of cycle?

 

[nickdentist]

No, clinical studies have shown that nolva will increase the side effects of progesterone. It should not be used with deca or any other progestin.

Thank you. That is the answer i was looking for. I knew i had heard that. So arimidex during cycle and clomid after cycle for PCT should be sufficient?

 

[Ulter]

Yes, but of course I recommend AIFM over Arimidex.

 

[nickdentist]

what kind of cycle?

Deca 400mg/wk 1-10
Test E 500mg/wk 1-12
Winny 50mg ED 1-12
Arimidex .5mg ED

Clomid for PCT

 

[NickyE3]

Deca 400mg/wk 1-10
Test E 500mg/wk 1-12
Winny 50mg ED 1-12
Arimidex .5mg ED

Clomid for PCT

That is quite a long time to be on winny. Your joints will be suffering quite a bit.

 

[Mr.X]

Deca 400mg/wk 1-10
Test E 500mg/wk 1-12
Winny 50mg ED 1-12
Arimidex .5mg ED

Clomid for PCT

winny oral? or inj.?

 

[nickdentist]

That is quite a long time to be on winny. Your joints will be suffering quite a bit.

What do you think i should cut the winny down to?

 

[nickdentist]

winny oral? or inj.?

Tablets

You think 12 weeks is too long for thw winny?

 

[Ulter]

You'll know if it's too long. I don't think so. But if your joints give you problems just stop and it goes away very quickly.

 

[Mr.X]

Tablets

You think 12 weeks is too long for thw winny?

Stick to 4-6 weeks, 12 weeks is too long.

 

[nickdentist]

You'll know if it's too long. I don't think so. But if your joints give you problems just stop and it goes away very quickly.

Thanks for all the help.

 

[greystreet55]

So let me get this straight... Armidex is what should be used to prevent gyno while on a deca/test cycle and not nolvadex. Am I correct in saying this?

 

[MADBALL99]

So would Nolva after Deca lower or raise prolactin/ progesterone levels ??

 

[Ulter]

So let me get this straight... Armidex is what should be used to prevent gyno while on a deca/test cycle and not nolvadex. Am I correct in saying this?

Yeah

 

[nickdentist]

Yeah

Finally, thanks for a clear answer on this subject.

 

[1392477]

limit your winnie to the last 6 weeks of your cycle.