Deca and fina together = good idea or bad

[jc21]

NO! they are both class one roids, that is they work primarily through the androgen receptor. You need a class 2 with either one of these. Test is best as it is the only hormone considered both a class 1 and class 2. Other examples of class 2's are d-bol and winny.

i disagree. deca is mostly anabolic...not androgenic. so why would it do the the "androgen" receptor. deca and fina both convert to progesterone regularly. and there really is no way to stop progesterone gyno. so the two arent safe to do together theoritcally. but hey i did it any way and at high doses and i dont have gyno.

 

[Nimrod25]

Actually JC,

Decas effectiveness at the androgen receptor of muscle tissue is superior to that of testosterone. It binds better. Yet, it gives only about half the muscle-building results per milligram. Probably because its less effective or entirely ineffective in non-AR-mediated mechanisms for muscle growth. Now Deca converts rapidly to estrogen as well as progesterone, but as long as you are not doing very high doses you wont have a problem. The reason why you were able to take deca and fina, yet still avoid gyno is because fina gyno is a result of IGF-1 or Prolactin, and not progesterone.

 

[Hugh Gellatts]

there is no definative answer really. i get every possible side from test and d-bol, but have used tren with anadrol and not had problems. you gotta figure out for yourself what drugs your body can handle with minimal sides. I actually asked your exact same question to a very respected trainer i know (trains one of the top IFBB pros) and he said it was fine to stack tren and deca, though to drop the deca before a show. the doses he recomended for the deca were pretty conservative though, with the deca being at around 200-300mg a week, and definately not over 400mg a week. He said if i wanted to use higher doses of an anabolic to use eq at between 600-800mg a week. BTW this guy recomends tren even in bulking cycles.


Currently I'm on tren/winstrol and added some nandrosol spray (don't laugh) as it seems to really help when my elbows start getting tight. I just realized that durabolin will be cheaper than nandrosol, so i'm gonna switch to that. sex drive is no issue since i'm on vitex and pgf2a.

I'd suggest the durabolin (nandrolone phenyleprop) as you can stop immediatly if you find the tren and nandrolone don't mix well. with deca, even if you get sides and immediatly stop it still will be in your system for a while.

 

[jc21]

Decas effectiveness at the androgen receptor of muscle tissue is superior to that of testosterone. It binds better. Yet, it gives only about half the muscle-building results per milligram. Probably because its less effective or entirely ineffective in non-AR-mediated mechanisms for muscle growth. Now Deca converts rapidly to estrogen as well as progesterone, but as long as you are not doing very high doses you wont have a problem. The reason why you were able to take deca and fina, yet still avoid gyno is because fina gyno is a result of IGF-1 or Prolactin, and not progesterone.

good post...where did you learn about this. i would like to learn more. i am a chem student, so this really interest me along with me being a roid boy.

 

[Nimrod25]

Well my majors consist of Exercise Science and Bio-Chemistry, and Im going into my fourth year of college, so I have picked up alot.

 

[squat800]

thanks for all the help

thanks (Hypotheticly) ,Im a powerlifter .. My last cycle I did deca 400mg test 400mg eq 200mg per week and fina @ 75mg eod then 4 weeks before the meet I added 50mg of d-bol ed and the last week I added 50mg of anadrol 50 and wow I came in soo strong. Its the first time I mixed it up like that. Usually I just took lots of test by its self. I held way less water and My gains seem to be solid as I have not lost anything since my cycle was over . three weeks after I started HGC, clomide and nolvadex.
Im going to do the same thing next time but more test and more fina
What would happen if you took fina by its self with small amounts of test? on a cutting phase? I really like adding the deca because it seem to help my joints ...could fina do the same thing?

 

[serge]

these two compounds are structurally related

 

[Maxx Out]

should you take fina and deca together why or why not. I know Borison said not to why??? I like the way deca makes your joints feel but I want to take fina also

It all depends how sensitive u r to them. Have you tried both of them seperatly? How have they worked for you? Sides? If u haven't had any sides on either of them go ahead and combine them at low doses to see how u take it.

Me, no way! Can't do it.

ultragainz, that fucker can run 1200mg/wk deca along w/some tren and not even sweat it! Lucky Bastard!

 

[TheBolt]

if you dont like mr. willy to stand up for what he believes in then go for it. But for real not a good idea go for winny in place of deca and maybe add a little test in there to help the shut down