Deal with the bloat...better gains?

[dosteov]

Starting the following 2nd cycle in a week (can't freaking wait!!).
Dbol25mg ed wks 1-4
Test500mg wks 1-10
EQ400mg wks 1-10

I was going to take Tamoxifen 20mg ED throughout, but my friend keeps telling me that my gains will not be as good...

Anyone have an opinion on this or a link to an article or study that can help me answer this question?

 

[azul]

Starting the following 2nd cycle in a week (can't freaking wait!!).
Dbol25mg ed wks 1-4
Test500mg wks 1-10
EQ400mg wks 1-10

I was going to take Tamoxifen 20mg ED throughout, but my friend keeps telling me that my gains will not be as good...

Anyone have an opinion on this or a link to an article or study that can help me answer this question?

Unless you're taking enough anti-e's to eliminate virtually all estrogen out of your system, you'll be fine and your gains will be just as good.

 

[dosteov]

Unless you're taking enough anti-e's to eliminate virtually all estrogen out of your system, you'll be fine and your gains will be just as good.

So Tamoxifen 20mgED is fine?

 

[azul]

So Tamoxifen 20mgED is fine?

Since it has a long half-life, you can go EOD (unless you get gyno, which you prolly won't). Also, I wouldn't start till around week 4, since before that, your estrogen won't have risen too much yet.

 

[dosteov]

Since it has a long half-life, you can go EOD (unless you get gyno, which you prolly won't). Also, I wouldn't start till around week 4, since before that, your estrogen won't have risen too much yet.

Thanks bro. K to you...

 

[nipples]

Run the test longer than the eq, just my two cents

 

[gymratforlife]

You wont get much boat if any at those doses for those compounds.

 

[gymratforlife]

Just do a little cardio and that will be suficient to keep you fairly dry.

 

[pudding]

I'm using prov & nolv to keep dbol bloat down. Seems to be working. I think it may be hindering gains, but mabey get to keep more after cycle

 

[AAP]

Hinder what "gains"? The water retention that is going to leave you post cycle anyway?

 

[gymratforlife]

lol I am taking 800mg of test with 600mg deca and 800mg eq per week and dont use any anti E's.

 

[pudding]

Hinder what "gains"? The water retention that is going to leave you post cycle anyway?

I'v read many posts by people that kept a fair portion of their gains from dbol. I realize there is a lot of water gain, but if working out hard and eating right and good pct should be able to retain somthing.

 

[bas4lizzife]

nolva will do nothing for bloat. you need adex, aromasin, or letro if you want to go the 'bloat-free' route

 

[romoranger]

a-dex, take it. i bloat on 250mg test a week, i am just super sensitive though