dbol/winny only cycle

[freshr1]

Hey guys,

Just want your opinion on this. My buddy wants to do an oral only cycle cause he's a sissy and doesn't want to inject. So I tell him to do a dbol/winny cycle. 5 weeks each at 50mg/day, for a total of 10 weeks with clomid therapy afterwards. Does this sound reasonable? He's done an half asses dbol cycle before and lossed all his gains, he doesn't even know how much he was taking. So this time I wanna make sure he does it as best as he can.

Thanks for any info!

 

[freshr1]

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[athlete03]

Well that's ten weeks of 17aa's. I wouldn't reccomend that for my friend. Tell your friend to stop being such a pussy and take it in the ass... The needle that is.

 

[solidspine]

athlete is right on 10 weeks on 17-aa straight is too long and he will have little to show for it.


Do 10 weeks on deca and test
do 5 weeks on d-bol
HCG post cycle and

then bridge for 6 weeks with 400 mg primo

 

[Cornellius]

tell your friend to better use anavar if he is afraid to inject. It isnt as hard to his liver...

 

[MUSTANG_18]

I agree, 10 weeks on D-Bol and Winny will give his liver a beating. Tell him to go with some injectables and stop being a bitch hehehe If he is stuck on doing an all oral cycle then I would go with Anavar at 50mg/Day for 10 weeks, the gains wont be huge but with a good diet I am sure he would be able to put on some good muscle while gaining some great strength and maybe loose some BF as well as Anavar has been shown to reduce abdominal fat in some studies.

M18

 

[freshr1]

Trust me guys, I've tried convincing him. He's injected before and apparently had some "bad experiences". Whatever the fuck that means. He was doing 50mg of winny A WEEK! lmao. Apparently he did get gains though. He did dbol once as well.

Anyway, it HAS to be dbol/winny cause that's what he wants or he wont do anything. If I dont guide him in the right direction, he'll just take the shit anyway in whatever way he thinks it's best.

So knowing this... how about 5 weeks dbol, take a break (how many weeks?!) and then 5 weeks of winny. Or would it be possibly better to do dbol/winny at the same time? Need some advice here bros! I'll have him on liver protectants for sure. Tons of them

 

[Yellowbomber]

love winny site injects

 

[Digital Ronin]

Anyway, it HAS to be dbol/winny cause that's what he wants or he wont do anything. If I dont guide him in the right direction, he'll just take the shit anyway in whatever way he thinks it's best.

Then it's nothing... If he can't do a cycle that isn't going to beat the hell out of his body than he shouldn't do one at all. As far as the injections go, how about you giving him his shots?

 

[Yellowbomber]

yeah don't be a wimp, mastering AS is about don't being afraid of needles

 

[THeMaCHinE]

Based on discussions with some of the vets and personal experience, I think that the liver toxicity of 17aas has been overblown.

Mixed drinks and Tylenol is "hard" on your liver too, but you don't see too many avoiding those behaviors (that have the behavior in the first place). In fact, a lot of people engage in these practices for years on end without adverse effects.

That said, I wouldn't go beyond 7 weeks. I'm in week 3 or 4 of a dbol/winny cycle (had a little deca thrown in too -- Ttokkyo Noran300 WOOF!). 50 mg dbol/50 mg winny ED. I plan on hitting 100 mg ed of the 17aas for a total of 7 weeks. As long as I keep my water intake up and drink plenty of cranberry juice, all should be fine. BTW, I'm making kick-ass gains. I wouldn't do this type of cycle all the time, but every once in awhile...

I think if you make some inquiries around to some of the vets, you'll find that this isn't all that uncommon of a practice...

That doesn't mean it's OK for your friend to be afraid of needles though Tell him to grow a set. lol.

 

[barbells79]

running them together isnt a bad suggestion in my opinion, run 40 or 50 mg of winny ed along with 30 or 40 mg of dbol ed for 4-5 weeks and see if he dosent grow. if he cant take an injection hes in the wrong sport though. he needs to get over that.
also dont forget the liver supps-lots of em!


peace bb79

 

[freshr1]

Based on discussions with some of the vets and personal experience, I think that the liver toxicity of 17aas has been overblown.

I tend to agree. The liver is pretty darn good at repairing itself and if you dont constantly bombard it, it's not as big a deal as has been made out. Chronic alcohol drinkers develop liver problems after YEARS of abuse and I'm pretty sure none of them are taking liver supps.

I think I shall put him on the dbol/winny at the same time and see how that goes. The idea here is that he'll get excited enough with the gains that he isnt gonna be afraid of sticking himself.

One more quick q. Since the dbol/winny will leave his system relatively quickly, he should start the clomid 2-3 days after his last pill, correct? Just double checking.

Thanks for all the replies guys!

 

[THeMaCHinE]

I'd start the clomid 9 hours after his last dose. Or he could just go eod throughout and ed for a week or two afterwards...