dbol to kickstart Test E cycle

[scramuel]

hi guys ill be planning to do a 15 wk cycle of test E 600mg ew
i've got a bottle of 10mg dbols, should i use it to kickstart my cycle?
or should i jus stick with test E all the way. wanna kw how i would react to test E by itself as i've not tried it before. should i do e dbols still?

 

[adpeterson33]

40mgs/ed for 4 weeks some go as high as 60mg/ed but whatever you have should suffice.

 

[daveyboy2345]

why waste 40 mgs all at once. Since you've never used d-bol before you should start at 20 mgs for several days go to 30 when gains slow then finish with 40 mgs when gains slow again.

 

[genman]

hi guys ill be planning to do a 15 wk cycle of test E 600mg ew
i've got a bottle of 10mg dbols, should i use it to kickstart my cycle?
or should i jus stick with test E all the way. wanna kw how i would react to test E by itself as i've not tried it before. should i do e dbols still?

Good plan to stick with the test by itself to start with. I would advise against a 15 week test cycle, as gains will slow after 8-10 weeks and you will plateau in strength and gains.

 

[big.nad]

when gains slow???????

just take 30-40mg every day for 4 or (at most) 5 weeks. then just continue on the rest with ur test e.

dont forget a proper pct!

 

[big.nad]

that was actually for daveyboy.

gens right, 10 weks will be plenty

 

[scramuel]

ok.. cos alot of guys have been telling me go for 15 wks.. 10 wks is e bare minimum. kinda confused here man.. should e dbols be added in at all? wouldnt i know which drug e gains would be attributed to?

 

[genman]

ok.. cos alot of guys have been telling me go for 15 wks.. 10 wks is e bare minimum. kinda confused here man.. should e dbols be added in at all? wouldnt i know which drug e gains would be attributed to?

Conventional wisdom says test only for your first cycle. 15 weeks is a waste of gear (for me anyway) because gains do stagnate after 8-10 weeks. dbol is a tricky AAS with a lot of potential sides. Elevated blood pressure, headaches and bloating are just a few. I think you'll be real happy with a test only cycle and you'll know how your body reacts to it and on future cycles, you'll know how other compounds are affecting you. Best of luck.

 

[SpyWizard]

the issue is test e takes about 3-6 weeks (depends on you) for the effects to really kick in, that's why we use dbol to kick start the process..

the reason, If this is your 1st cycle, to do a test only is so that you can be attentive to your body and the sides that you have..

by adding a 2nd compound you don't know what is causing any problems, thus running only 1 compound is recommended..

good luck

 

[tupac]

personally id throw the dbol in there... i remeber my first cycle i was sooo anxious to start seeing gains.. id go head a throw dbol in there for the first 4 weeks at 20-40mg a day. you wont regret it..

 

[daveyboy2345]

why start a first time cycle with a higher amount of dbol when the lower dosage will give good results for a week maybe 2 then increase the dosage when the scale plateaus. By the end of 5 weeks the test will be working and you will have made good gains using less dbol, imho. aka ramp your orals up.

 

[Dr. JK]

why waste 40 mgs all at once. Since you've never used d-bol before you should start at 20 mgs for several days go to 30 when gains slow then finish with 40 mgs when gains slow again.

I agree. It's your 1st cycle take it easy with the doses and duration. Use the d-bol until the test kicks in.

You need to make sure most improtantly that you have anti-e's available (GYNO, water retention, etc) as well as your PCT stuff (HCG, Clomid, etc).

Why don't you post your intended cycle and let some guys give you some feedback?

 

[scramuel]

this is my 3rd cycle actually.. first was dbol 50mg ed and winny 50mg ed for 4 weeks
2nd was deca 200mg ew for 8 wks and sust 500mg ew for 8 wks

if gains will slow down after e 8th wk i might jus run the test at 8wks
i'll prob use sust

 

[mauit44]

I loved my d bol/sust/deca cycle... (well.. except for the deca dick), but be sure to take aromasin or AIFM for the bloat you're gonna get from it though. 30mgs x day is sufficient, especially if you're fairly new to gear, first 6 wks of cycle only. Good luck

 

[scramuel]

is it true gains will slow after the 8th week? thru personal experience?

 

[Hurricane55]

40mg a week for the first 4 weeks is good

 

[OMEGA]

Prop or Dbol would suffice for a kick start ( 4-5 weeks)

 

[xyz-11]

did this cycle last year...
week 1-4 dbol @ 30mgs ED
week 1-12 test E @ 500/week

Great results ... Ai and you are good to go

 

[Mac173]

I would do this if it was my first cycle again:

1-12 or 14 test e 500
1-4 or 5 dbol 30-40

I always find I get a lot of gains at the end so short cycles are not for me.

 

[Hurricane55]

Definitely