Dbol? Or Deca?-Which Is Worse???

[Texas Ranger]

Guys, weighing the Pros and Cons, which is one worse on your body(ie.Recovery,Libido,Skin,etc...)? Thinking about using one of them with Test Enanthate for my First Cycle.

 

[k_freak]

Liver Toxicity advantage Deca

Hair loss... D-bol blocked with propecia pills Deca requiring messy spiro topical... advantage D-bol

Gyno D-bol blocked with L-dex..Deca requiring winny or a progesterone blocker... advantage D-bol

D-bol is out of system quicker than deca, quicker clomid therapy adantage d-bol

D-bol makes me horny..they don't call it deca dick for nothin'.. advantage d-bol.

I would say if you keep your liver profile monitored... Go with the test and D-bol stack.

However, depending on your goals you may need further analysis.

 

[jc21]

i agree with all the above....but i believe that overall for bodybuilding deca is a better choice. deca being overall mostly anabolic means more quality muscle will be put on...where with a highly androgenic AS like dbol, more water will be put on and gains are easier to lose, but dbol will probably give better strength gains. i know you didnt ask...but i wanted to talk about it!!

 

[Texas Ranger]

Thanks JC21! Your opinion is always valued, bro!!!

 

[Fish]

Better gains... advantage Deca

Less acne... advantage Dbol

Price... advantage Dbol


I tried a cycle with Deca, and did not dislike it... but I did break out amazingly bad. I went to the doctor and got pills which helped some, but it was still to much to handle. I am a shirt and tie guy at work, and the acne would show wet spots on my back though my shirt.


I never had a problem with deca dick though, and the gains were good.

Best luck

 

[Maxx Out]

I am a shirt and tie guy at work, and the acne would show wet spots on my back though my shirt.

 

[serge]

very personal issue, all compounds effect people differently, i would go with dboll but make sure to run liquidex or better femera, but either one will do the trick

 

[bigdelt69]

I would choose the deca myself.

 

[solidspine]

i agree with all the above....but i believe that overall for bodybuilding deca is a better choice. deca being overall mostly anabolic means more quality muscle will be put on...where with a highly androgenic AS like dbol, more water will be put on and gains are easier to lose, but dbol will probably give better strength gains. i know you didnt ask...but i wanted to talk about it!!

exactly!


For a first cycle test/deca is perfect, I love d-bol especially Russian d-bol, but I would not recommend it for a first cycle,

Deca/test/anti-e than clomid/hcg and you have a great first cycle.

 

[wil is jakked]

I'm running all three for my first cycle. I really don't want to run deca (organon) but I heard it will ease the pain of T400 (denkall) when mixed together in the same syringe.

Do you think this is necessary??

BTW, I'll be using thai d-bols.

 

[MadCow1]

Guys, weighing the Pros and Cons, which is one worse on your body(ie.Recovery,Libido,Skin,etc...)? Thinking about using one of them with Test Enanthate for my First Cycle.

Deca converts to DHN and actually improves hair and skin quality relative to normal testosterone levels (if someone says it's bad on hair or prostate you know they have no clue). Incidentally, do not take proscar/propecia with deca as it will interfere with conversion to DHN and make it harder on the hair/prostate - how much harder is anyone's guess.

Obviously toxitity is much less. Nandrolone is very suppressive so clomid therapy is essential 3 weeks after sessation.

General side effects are less with deca in every regard unless someone is very unlucky or just doesn't react favorably. The negative is that progesterone activity is difficult to combat, where estrogen sides nolv-arim etc. are available. People seem to be relatively safe in the sub 400mg weekly dosages. The long ester also makes cessation difficult as it is active in the body for so long.

If using deca with test libido is not a concern but if alone dbol is clearly at an advantage.

Deca gains are more easily kept and water retention tends to be lower than dbol/test unless you are running an anti'e.

So what would I recommend:

Enanthate:
wk1 and 2: 500mgs
wk 3-?: 300mgs

Deca:
wk1 and 2: 300mgs
wk 3-?: 200mgs

Basically 500mgs weekly total - I'd imagine you'll see little sides besides size, strength, sex drive. I would prefer this cycle to 500mgs of straight test as it is less androgenic and there is significant synergy between these compounds which should provide supperior results (for a significant portion of users) or worst case scenario results close to what 500mgs of test would provide. Plus, I don't think any newbie needs more than 500mgs total weekly with fairly strong compounds.

So TR, are you ever going to actually do a cycle?

 

[Fish]

Re: this guy has no idea what he is talking about...

unless his dbol is fake, the only true statement is that dbol is cheap. I would go with the deca for LESS SIDES and more PERMANENT gains.

I guess I am the guy with no Idea what I am talking about.

I said better gains, cause dbol tends to be water, and harder to keep. Deca tends to be harder, easyer to keep... therefor better.

I said dbol less acne, cause I have always done test and dbol and never had acne. I used deca one time and had very bad acne. I am sure it was the deca. Why would I lie. And why does this mean I have no idea? I just told him my experiance with them, that is what I have to go on.

And I said cheaper for dbol, cause it is.

Johnyboy,
piss off.

 

[Texas Ranger]

Madcow, thanks for the insight, bro! As well as the rest of the guys on board. I think it's pretty much set. Test and Deca and I'm looking for some HIGH QUALITY mass gains!! Test Enanthate(ICN)@500mgs for 10 weeks and Deca(Quality Vet)@300mgs for 8 weeks with [email protected] EOD throughout and post cycle. I'll start the Clomid at week 12-14. I just hope I'm one of the lucky guys that don't get progesteronic gyno. That would SUCK!!!!

 

[genarr3]

Deca wins in every category except recovery.

IMO Deca is one of the best drugs on the market.

 

[macDbol]

deca is an awsome drug IMO, just that ppl expect too much from it in terms of gains, depending on the brand all u need is one or two cc's a week of it,,its great