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dbol/fina cycle

jakson

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I have 200 dbols(they are the five sided pink ones and they pass the crush test) and 10 shots of fina. I weigh 175lbs and have been training on and off for the last 5 years. I have never taken dbols before and I just want some advice on what the most effective way to use the amount of gear I have is.
 
Because you have never tried them it would be hard to predict the results, everyone is different. Average d-bol does is anywhere from 15mg a day 35mg. Some going higher. The 10 shots of fina - not sure without knowing what that amounts to. If you only have ~10 days worth you could try some of the 2 week on / 4 week off cycles. There are several posted at mesorx.com with some results.

Better idea would be to make more fina and run it for longer, front load with the d-bol.

Or you could save it, try a 2 week cycle of d-bol to see how you react? Then take what you have an build a new cycle for later?
 
I'm not sure the size of the fina, I just know its 10 shots I'm picking it up tommorrow, but my friend who is getting it for me told me I will be taking it every three days. Does this sound right?

Also, I was wondering if I should be taking the dbols at various times of the day? Is it good to take them before/after a workout?
For 200 dbols with that fina how many should i take a day for how long?
 
One more thing.
Where is the best place to inject the fina? The only two places I have ever taken shots is in my ass and my shoulder. Personally I prefer my shoulder, but i was told it can be good to stick it between your fingers!!! Whats the deal?
 
Jackson, forget that crap about the fingers. All AS are IM based shots. You can shoot your thighs, ass, bi's, tri's and delts. Some people shoot their chest too. See http://www.spotinjections.com/index2.htm for details.

I did a fina cycle and it worked out well for me. I would highly recommend 75mg (which should equal 1 cc depending on how the concentration was made) everyday for 6 weeks. So bro, you would need more than 20ccs (=20 shots = 2.8 weeks). You can front load with Dbol but I would hold off until you get more fina. You may want to get some arimidex or proviron in case you get any gyno.

Do a quick search on fina cycles and you'll see what others have tried and advised aside from my suggestions.
Best of luck!
Aikido
 
20 sounds better, but Fina has a short half life and shots are every day (ED) or every other day (EOD).

D-bol, throughout the day for most people. It goes well with fina and is a good stack. If you are new, keep the stack simple and small. Not point it using more then you need, you can only grow so fast no matter the gear.

So you have enough d-bol, and maybe enough fina for anywhere from 20 to 40 days. Not bad, front load with the d-bol.

Wait until you have your Clomid before you start, also some vitex (a.k.a chastebery) him may help with the sides. There are no anti-e's for fina and decca, if you have any hint of gyno you need to stop
 
These guys that I know that are on this same shit didn't mention anything about clomid. With that amount of dbol and fina is it high risk when it comes to the gyno. I have tried deca,primo, and sust. before and never had a problem. But like I said this will be my first dbol cycle.

Will the fina help me keep my gains from the dbols?

I've been reading that to keep your gains with the dbols you need to stack it with a test.

What about injecting vitamin b12 with this cycle, I heard it will increase your gains off the gear by 20%
 
Beleive me, with your doing Fina, your going to need Clomid, Fina shuts you down hard, even with Clomid it took me close to 8 weeks to get back up and running.
 
OK I read up on clomid and i understand now what your saying but as for gyno they say clomid isn't as effective. And where can I buy some?
 
voodoo said:
Because you have never tried them it would be hard to predict the results, everyone is different. Average d-bol does is anywhere from 15mg a day 35mg. Some going higher. The 10 shots of fina - not sure without knowing what that amounts to. If you only have ~10 days worth you could try some of the 2 week on / 4 week off cycles. There are several posted at mesorx.com with some results.

Better idea would be to make more fina and run it for longer, front load with the d-bol.

Or you could save it, try a 2 week cycle of d-bol to see how you react? Then take what you have an build a new cycle for later?

My partnes added 20 mg of d-bol to his 75 mg of fina ED.

He also added L-dex at 1 mg ED to reduce possible bloat.

Up 8 pounds in two weeks
 
jakson said:
Is it safe to take this cycle without an anti-e????

And if not which one is the best to work with?

L -dex as an anti-estro.
 
fina at 75mgs ed and some d-bol at 25-30mgs a day although i hate d-bol i never see anything but a bloated face from those bastards, fina on the other hand is my best freind i dont go anywhere without my implant gun:D
 
Jackson.

Do a search on Liquidex. It is a liquid form of arimidex and works much better.

Do a search on Fina/Winny/Prop cycles. In my experience this is the best fina stack possible. The winny helps with any prog gyno you could get from the fina. The test (prop) will help with the shut down and keep your sex drive up. Take the l-dex to help with the bloat and any other issues that could come up with the d-bol or test. Stack you dbol with this as well.

On a final note, I am unclear as to your age and if this is your first or second cycle. If it is your first cycle, I would stay away from fina.

I would also suggest a few MUST HAVE supps. Make sure you are taking ALA at 1500-2000mg a day. Cranberry extract at 1000 to 1300mg a day. Not to mention keep your diet clean, but high in protien.

Also, do a search on everything before asking a lot of questions. If you are going to start pumping all this shit into your body, understand the risks and the gains. Prepare yourself and do the research.
 
I'm 22. This will be my fourth time on Juice. It's been about 6 months since my last cycle. I only took 10 shots of test prop. in total. one shot every three days and I was happy with the results I got a lot stronger and I was rock hard. Although I would have liked to gain a little more size.
 
Your Right, Clomid is not to help Gyno, only Anti-E's will do that, examples:

Amimidex
Liquid Dex
Femara

These 3 will block the converstion of Test to Estrogen be about 95%- 98%


Nolvadex will block it about 100%, but can also hinder gains.


Most people will take anti-E with Aromitising Steriods such as Test, D-Ball, A bombs at about .25- .5mg per day to stop bloating. If there nips get sensitive they hit the Nolvadex usually about 20mg ED, through the rest of there cycle. These will stop the gyno.

As for Deca and Fina, gyno occurs from Progestrone and there is not a whole lot you can do. Although some people beleive Bromociptine(sp), or Vitex will help. It's just theory for right now. But there are a bunch of human guinie pigs out there work on a solution.

Clomid needs to be used after your cycle, your nuts are shut down, producing little or no test. So Clomid binds to your Estrogen sites leaving an excess of Estrogen floating around . This tells your Brain (the Hypotalimus) the get your nuts working again because your hormones are out of wack. So your brain sends out LH, and your nuts begin to wake up. With out CLomid your body just stays in flux and it takes months for it to recover. That is why BB used to loss all there gains.

Did I explain this about 70% right?
 
No anti-e's for fina and decca. Fina may help cut back on the bloat from d-bol some have. As for keeping gains, that is what clomid is for. It helps get the nat. test going again.

In the old days it was common to cut the does down as the cycle ended to help prevent the crash. Now with things like clomid we don't have to.

As for the b-12, you need a good multi period to maximize gains. You can't grow without the building blocks. Keep up the protien as well, 1-2 grams per pound (~350 grams for you).
 
OK, thanks for the help.
I'll get my hands on some clomid.

and L-dex but I don't think I'm going to need it.

Also is there an easy way to tell if your fina was made properly?
 
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