Dbol + Clen any thoughts

[karachi183]

Let me ask some questions..... Will you be dieting during the Dbol cycle? Eating a caloric deficit? Or are you gonna keep calories high, and cut em when you start the Clen? Do you plan on using any fatburner with the Dbol?

rizz

I plan on keeping calories (protien 60% fat 20% carbs 20%) (good calories that is) high then lowering fat and carbs when starting the clen but keeping protien high. No fat burners at any point other than the clen (i usaully drink 2 20% cups of joe during the day). Water intake as high as i can stand without exploding.

 

[karachi183]

www.meso-rx.com

I think they have BR's article somewhere - you're going to have to dig it up. I'm not a fan of short cycle, but you can give it a shot.

Dude! Thx X i totally found it and will give it try....... K to ya

 

[big49ersfan]

i personally wouldnt use the clen after cycle unless it is a low does 40mcg ed for its anti-catabolic effect. if you are using the clen for cutting after bdol IMO a bad idea as you will extremely catabolic anyway and risk loosing muscle.

either run the clen before or during the bdol cycle.

 

[Mr.X]

Dude! Thx X i totally found it and will give it try....... K to ya

Just make sure you follow his cycle layout, 2 /4 or 2/ 6 I think.

 

[karachi183]

i personally wouldnt use the clen after cycle unless it is a low does 40mcg ed for its anti-catabolic effect. if you are using the clen for cutting after bdol IMO a bad idea as you will extremely catabolic anyway and risk loosing muscle.

either run the clen before or during the bdol cycle.

Totally agreed i'm def using it for it's anti-catabolic effect.. If i was cutting then i wouldn't touch the dbol at all even tho i seem to slim up the waistline everytime anyway. But i been hearing alot more about clen making it's way to legality in the U.S. for health purposes and it now seems to not be as dangerous as i originally thought it was. (at a low dose that is)

again thx guys...
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[bigmouth2006]

so that is all you are going to is d-bol for 4 weeks and then cycle clen

 

[karachi183]

so that is all you are going to is d-bol for 4 weeks and then cycle clen

yes sir..I personally like to keep it plain and simple... Dbol alone always works very well for me. so adding clen to this time around is actually a big leap for me. I've had amps of sus and a bottle of cyp laying around for years now and luckily haven't had the need to include them at any time. (fingers crossed)...
I actually wanted to do dbol and winny but since i ache like a SOB on the dbol so i figured y add something else they may make my joints ache more.

 

[Prizz]

i personally wouldnt use the clen after cycle unless it is a low does 40mcg ed for its anti-catabolic effect. if you are using the clen for cutting after bdol IMO a bad idea as you will extremely catabolic anyway and risk loosing muscle.

either run the clen before or during the bdol cycle.

I kinda agree to an extent..... However, using Clen post cycle is usually the best time to use it..... I think what I'm not liking here is that youre using Dbol for your cycle..... Reason I'm saying that is cause Dbol gains are hard to keep as it is, so youre bound to lose some muscle after stopping..... I realize that's all you have on hand atm, and wanna put it to a good use..... I guess as long as youre prepared to lose some of the gains, go for it......

rizz

 

[karachi183]

I kinda agree to an extent..... However, using Clen post cycle is usually the best time to use it..... I think what I'm not liking here is that youre using Dbol for your cycle..... Reason I'm saying that is cause Dbol gains are hard to keep as it is, so youre bound to lose some muscle after stopping..... I realize that's all you have on hand atm, and wanna put it to a good use..... I guess as long as youre prepared to lose some of the gains, go for it......

rizz

I actually have some fire laying around in the form of test cyp-winny sch.-clen & pink tai's

And i'll be all over the place this summer so the Bill Roberts short cycle style fits me perfectly ( i think ) so i don't have to worry about carrying around a ton of gear. I'm big on if it ain't broke don't fix it and again the gains from d always come quick so the 2 on a few off might work better at retaing gains than 4 weeks straight which is what i usaully do.

Again Thx for feedback! much appreciated

 

[big49ersfan]

never done a dbol only cycle so cant comment on gains form but i have used it as a kickstart and to be honest i think ye you loose water but i dont think it is any different in terms of muscle loss to any other roid that is simpole how hard you it the rack and diet in pct and how well you reocver. it may seem as it you loose strength cos you do water helps with the strnegth and that will go and size as the water goes but i would disagree with you when you sya you will loose muscle in pct specifically from bdol.