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Danymal's First Tren Run

danymal04

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Just started yesterday , today was my second shot but Idk if it was the test or the tren but no cardio effects tonight while running drills for an hour, actually felt a step quicker but idk if it was in my mind or the combo... probably the combo im assuming. only injecting 50mg ed on the combo which is 50/50/37.5. Tomorrow is back to lifting and I'll let you bro's know how that goes... no insomnia yet or feeling of hottness or night sweats and no tren cough as of yet. Those must take a few days to kick in. So far so good. Also running B-Complex and that good E. I plan on running this cycle only for 4weeks, if back pumps or sides get too be too much...or cardio drains me.. I'll stop early but i don't see that happening right now :evil: .
 
karter said:
Your running a tren only cycle?

My tren a took 4-5 days to really start kickin!

PF Blend of MAST PROP 100mgs/TEST PROP 100mgs/Tren Ace 75mgs

I'm only injecting 50mgs on the syringe though so I'm guessing that cuts everything into half correct me if I'm wrong
 
odoyal rulez said:
you mean .5 ml right?

Correct .5ml is what I meant, I'm just looking for the positives on this cycle, and if negitives come, I'll list them and let everyone know... but I'm not looking for them.. it makes me too concious of myself always worrying about if shits going to happen
 
danymal04 said:
PF Blend of MAST PROP 100mgs/TEST PROP 100mgs/Tren Ace 75mgs

I'm only injecting 50mgs on the syringe though so I'm guessing that cuts everything into half correct me if I'm wrong
Damn that's a big barrel!
 
srf173 said:
Damn that's a big barrel!

Couldnt turn it down, the blend is all in one vial as a present :spin:

Because I am only injecting .5ml that means that its only 50/50/37.5.

The up above blend is listed together by ml
 
danymal04 said:
Couldnt turn it down, the blend is all in one vial as a present :spin:

Because I am only injecting .5ml that means that its only 50/50/37.5.

The up above blend is listed together by ml

I know what you meant. :p
 
I didn't get any of the sides til around week 3 or so. Strength increases in the 2nd week. I haven't gotten insomnia but God those night sweats are hell of annoying...but its oh so worth it.
 
Just so you know not everyone gets tren cough, I for one have never had it and i've done a good bit of tren in my day and its all been homebrew except for the tren E. People have also reported getting a cough from test before. Have fun with your tren, I cannot wait to make some more and jump on it again. Its one of my favorite compounds regardless of the sides I get.
 
danymal04 said:
PF Blend of MAST PROP 100mgs/TEST PROP 100mgs/Tren Ace 75mgs

I'm only injecting 50mgs on the syringe though so I'm guessing that cuts everything into half correct me if I'm wrong
nice. i think they call that ripped fuel.
 
bmcadoo44 said:
what AI's and AE's are you running with your tren?

Well I can run AIFM and I have it but the Tren will suprese the estrogen

bmcadoo44 said:
What made you take masteron over winstrol?

I'm an athlete so I can't have winny on my joints


bmcadoo44 said:
Are you taking anything to combat prog/prolactin gyno?

No, a lot of guys on here said they didn't get gyno while on.. and i have around 9-10%bf so I'm not too worried about that..

bmcadoo44 said:
How long you running it for?

3-4wks - 5 max

bmcadoo44 said:
I may start mine up today but i just came off a 12 weeker a week ago. I was just going to extend the cycle to 18 weeks. Should i give it some time off then hit up the tren or should i just take some HCG and give it a go?

I don't have enough experience and don't know your situation exactly to give you a correct advice as to what to do. I'd explain your situation in a new thread on the board and let the more experience bro's help you out. This is my first time running tren and 6th cycle so like I said, I probably not as experienced
 
Day 2: Upon Waking

Blood Pressure:
142/55

Resting Heart Rate:
51 -been as low as 45 before

Crit %:
49%-50% (highest I've been was 51%)
 
yeah, you might not get the tren cough. I have had the test cough before, but only once. just aspirate real good and make sure you don't move the needle around at all during the inject and you should be fine.
 
Twoguns said:
yeah, you might not get the tren cough. I have had the test cough before, but only once. just aspirate real good and make sure you don't move the needle around at all during the inject and you should be fine.


yeah for sure man, I use to aspirate all the time, now only once in a blue moon.. but I'll start doing that again more often.. I've never had any problems so knock on wood i should be cool with the cough.. I'm a pretty steady shoot :bigbuck:
 
I just took my first shot of tren. It was 100mg prop, 75m tren ace (eod). I will be running 25mg winstrol for the first half of my 6 weeker.

im so pumped
 
That is an awesome blend!!

I have been on mast sust tren for 1 week and loving it. Nice mix of hardness, cutting, strength and size on a low calorie diet. It would be sweet to have it in a blend.
 
kyle8303 said:
Hey danymal does that blend hurt you. By hurt I mean cripple the leg you inject it into.

Yeah whats up bro, about the blend.. it's made with EO (ethyle opiate) or something like that. (can't remember the name) but that makes it smooth as butter baby... so if I wanted I could draw and inject with slin pin anywhere in my body... doesn't leave sorness at all. I dont inject with slins though, I use 25g. I inject mostly in my glutes but will in my quads as well.. mostly night injections after getting out the shower. Too tell you the truth.. the B-Complex cripples me more than the Tren Blend does bro, the tren blend sits around for an hour or so but nothing to worry about as it is good in a while, after I inject, I usually play some halo with my boys and everythings all good. I would never do it before a workout though
 
Worked out today...

Cleans
Front Squats superset Box Jumps superset Hamstring curls
DB shoulder press superset lat pulls
Back Rows wide grip
Close grip lat pull downs

Strength is going up in squats.. felt good .. little sore from yesterdays running but still felt good. Starting ti sweat a little more now, might have been the coffee I had this morning though too... Idk Everything so far so good. Maybe a little more energy than before but nothing to crazy compared to running test prop in the past. Will do Ed throughout I think as I like that I only have so much in my system and never over 50mgs
 
Day 3 Upon waking:

Hours of sleep:7-8

Blood Pressure using OMRON Machine:
155/57

Resting Heart Rate using OMRON Machine:
52

*No insomnia last night.. No night sweats
*Increased hardness in arms
*No aggression problems yet other than being more competitve which is a good thing

Will report back after lift today
 
Lift today:

Snatch
(Squat) superset (broad jump) superset (RDL)
(Bench) superset (backrow)
(Bi's) superset (Tricept pulldown/Dips)

Didn't really feel any strength increase although I have been doing a lot more supersets lately in my workouts and I think that might be having a direct effect on my late fatigue in the week. Don't want to bump it up so I'm going to run this for a week and see how all goes and if I have to I guess I will but so far just like test prop. Overated? haha jk, its only been 3 days. Not any more increased fatigue as of late. Have practice tomorrow, will let you know how it goes and everything else. Recovery is going good on this. Also taking in 200grams of Protien a day (2-3shakes 42g) and clean diet with steak/fish salad. Drinking a gallon of water which is also key especially when doing supersets and running tren at the same time. Your workouts will be ten times worse if you have to walk over to the water machine all day cause its hotter than africa in your mouth. haven't seen anyone posting in here but if you have any questions feel free.. later
 
danymal04 said:
PF Blend of MAST PROP 100mgs/TEST PROP 100mgs/Tren Ace 75mgs

I'm only injecting 50mgs on the syringe though so I'm guessing that cuts everything into half correct me if I'm wrong
I think you mean .50 ml, 1/2 a cc. Why only 4 week? just curious what your logic behind that is...
 
ironclaw said:
I think you mean .50 ml, 1/2 a cc. Why only 4 week? just curious what your logic behind that is...
I'm layin in bed right now sweatin like a mofo... probably just hot in the house.. but i heard 4-6 weeks is the ace protocall.. correct me if I heard wrong. I'd rather just run it 4 weeks with my first go of it and make sure i recover properly and everything goes smoothly.. in the future.. i will def run longer if thats the call for it
 
Day 4:
BP:??
Resting Heart Rate:??

Today overall was a good day. Felt really quick and powerful running, no effects on breathing at all. Starting to feel it, not getting super hard or anything but running wise its a pick me up without a doubt I'm more explosive. Will report back tomorrow
 
Day 5 Upon waking:

BP:130/60

RHR:60

Woke up this morning feeling nice and solid, I can feel its starting to kick in now. No sexual problems down there as of yet which I dont think there will be but nothing else has really changed, no worse of a temper, just more calm acctually on it. Can't wait to get back in the weight room tomorrow if I dont end up going today
 
shrimp44 said:
Hey in those pictures what were your stats? hieght, wieght, BF

in those pictures I had just recently done a bf messurement on one of them handheld ones which isn't accurate at all i know.

5'11"
195-200lbs
12%bf ???

I just messured my thighs... they are 25 inches

Here is another pic of my chest and like i said this is from a month or so ago, not sure exactly when

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u130/danymal04/P1000809.jpg
 
sweating a lot more, although i sweat a lot the way it is naturally. Explosion is still there, but was super sore today in the lower body.. I'm guessing it was from working harder than my body was used to with all this extra power. Once I got warmed up though, I was good to go. Back at lift tomorrow and will update next tomorrow night.
 
enjoying your thread...cant wait to see the week 4 pictures and how you feel....would corospond with the end of my 16 week test e/eq cycle...might be nice to turn it into a 20 week with the last 4 weeks matching your current cycle...keep us in the know

what sport do you play? position?
 
nab12 said:
enjoying your thread...cant wait to see the week 4 pictures and how you feel....would corospond with the end of my 16 week test e/eq cycle...might be nice to turn it into a 20 week with the last 4 weeks matching your current cycle...keep us in the know

what sport do you play? position?


Cool Bro, yeah for sure, this stuff is starting to kick in and is impressive can't wait to see the effects in a week or two. I play fb db... i will be posting up later on pics and stats and def keep this thread going..later bros
 
pics look good. The only comment that I would make is that it seems that you are prone to the effects of estrogen and or prolactin. I have not seen your posted cycle But, I would make sure you are doing an AI or serm .. Just being nitpicky. That is only for aesthetic reasons ie the "love handles" you mentioned (i did not notice) and the predisposition towards gyno.
Good luck
 
Yeah, when I ran my test prop, my face blew the fuck up... I didnt know what was going on at first, i was using aifm but idk... then i stuck in eq next time around and some var and that kept the estrogen lower throughout plus my diet was full of sodium as i came to find out later on which didnt help. But things are pretty cleaned up now and this tren/prop/mast has got me good and lean. I'm going to have to stick with this tren combo for all my cycles from now on, well as much as I can. Today is day 6 and is starting to kick in, always sweating more than usual. Little bit of insomnia last night but not bad. Not any more aggressiveness really as of late. all is good so far
 
well boys, its been a full out week today, and im glad to say, no sides as of yet! running the same ed dose. will report back after lift.. but just wanted to share..
 
Day7 upon wakeing:

BP: Good Level
Resting heart rate: Good Level

Just got back from the gym and had a good workout but didnt feel any stronger, actually felt less strength than when I was running my hrt of test prop at 50mgs ed before the blend got here. Maybe I was just having a bad day Idk. Its pissing me off though since its been a week and its not kicked in for strength. I guess its not all going to happen over night. I also noticed that I've gained 5-6 pounds since last week friday. I can tell I am sweating more as people have told me that I sweat more during practice even when we dont do anything. I've been supersetting a lot though so I've been sweating like crazy which is good. I can't really tell if I've dropped any BF% as of yet. I'm sure everything is fine, I almost feel as if this stuff doesnt work. But by the way my recovery is going I know it is. I'll continue the dose .5ml ed 50/50/37.5 of the blend. Another update will be here tomorrow.
 
danymal04 said:
Just started yesterday , today was my second shot but Idk if it was the test or the tren but no cardio effects tonight while running drills for an hour, actually felt a step quicker but idk if it was in my mind or the combo... probably the combo im assuming. only injecting 50mg ed on the combo which is 50/50/37.5. Tomorrow is back to lifting and I'll let you bro's know how that goes... no insomnia yet or feeling of hottness or night sweats and no tren cough as of yet. Those must take a few days to kick in. So far so good. Also running B-Complex and that good E. I plan on running this cycle only for 4weeks, if back pumps or sides get too be too much...or cardio drains me.. I'll stop early but i don't see that happening right now :evil: .


good luck to you on your cycle
 
I also don't drink/smoke/ or do any drugs while I'm on cycle or hardley ever. I try to eat clean the majority of time, protien shakes, 2lbs of steak a day, fish, chicken, salad, mac n cheese, 1 gallon of water a day.

Also Running EPO.

Supplements:

V-12 Turbo
MRI NO2
Folic Acid 400mcg 3xED
Iron 100mgs ED
Daily Vitamin
4Grams of Vitamin C
Glucosamine
Extra Glutamine
Baby Aspirin
On and Off with Gakic only use before Practice
On and Off with Yohimbre ES Fat Burner (only use on chest/adds/handles)
 
danymal04 said:
Day7 upon wakeing:

BP: Good Level
Resting heart rate: Good Level

Just got back from the gym and had a good workout but didnt feel any stronger, actually felt less strength than when I was running my hrt of test prop at 50mgs ed before the blend got here. Maybe I was just having a bad day Idk. Its pissing me off though since its been a week and its not kicked in for strength. I guess its not all going to happen over night. I also noticed that I've gained 5-6 pounds since last week friday. I can tell I am sweating more as people have told me that I sweat more during practice even when we dont do anything. I've been supersetting a lot though so I've been sweating like crazy which is good. I can't really tell if I've dropped any BF% as of yet. I'm sure everything is fine, I almost feel as if this stuff doesnt work. But by the way my recovery is going I know it is. I'll continue the dose .5ml ed 50/50/37.5 of the blend. Another update will be here tomorrow.

what are you eating pre-workout? load up on carbs before the workout and your strength will shoot up. Also If your trying to bulk up its going to be hard to lose fat at the same time
 
Yeah Chest- I'm not trying to bulk up anymore, just looking for strength and explosion which I feel I have more of on the field for sure. I'll have to load up on the carbs thing before lift today and see how it goes. I bumped dose up to 75ml last night and will run that ed from now on. That comes out to 56.5mgs ed of tren and 75mg of both prop and mast. Blends are wierd. I've beens sleeping like a baby as of late so no problems with that, all I see is excesive sweating, and quick recovery. Will report back after lift today and see how strength is and how workout feels. No back pump problems which is good and no leg pump problems.
 
I was just going to start a prop/tren 50/37.5 ed cycle but, after reading this thread Im wondering if I should up the doses?

Do you think that you should have ran 50/50 ed on even 100/50 ed or are you pretty happy with the doses and gains with what you have used?
 
wzkid said:
I was just going to start a prop/tren 50/37.5 ed cycle but, after reading this thread Im wondering if I should up the doses?

Do you think that you should have ran 50/50 ed on even 100/50 ed or are you pretty happy with the doses and gains with what you have used?

bro, i am on 100mg prop, 75mg tren ace eod. I have been on for now a week and this cycle so far is great. My strength has gone up considerably already. Though the night sweats arent bad, i do sweat and get hot very easily throughout the day. I have been doing cardio for 30mins every day and i have already lost 7 pounds. This tren makes me pissed all the time tho and i sometimes get these headaches and start to sweat.

I am going try ED injections of 50/37.5 or i may bump up the dosage a little higher. not sure though.
 
danymal, I started my cycle the same exact day you did... I'm on Tren A 75mg/ed and Sustanon 250mg m/w/f. I'm not really noticing any difference other than a possible increased sense of well being (calmness)... I am starting to get acne on my shoulders and chest, also my piss is darkening, but no aggression or sweats or increased strength so far.

I'm subscribed to this thread and I'll be comparing our results... I'll chime in once in a while ;)
 
I started this past monday of test E at 500mg a week and tren a 75 eod, no notices yet, did 2 shots so far, tomo 3rd....
 
wzkid said:
I was just going to start a prop/tren 50/37.5 ed cycle but, after reading this thread Im wondering if I should up the doses?

Do you think that you should have ran 50/50 ed on even 100/50 ed or are you pretty happy with the doses and gains with what you have used?

Well I mean, I guess it was ok for never running Tren before because I didnt know what to expect. I think I gave myself more insomnia then the tren did at first just expecting things to happen. Now I fall asleep like easy everynight, sure I get night sweats some nights... but whatever, I sleep with a fan on me so not too bad. All I have to say is I've ran Prop and EQ Before in two different vials and got strong and whatever. Now I'm like more solid 210lbs but feel like I'm still 200lbs if that makes any sense (5'11). No bloat like test, because of the estrogen stopage from the tren and mast. I dont' have the strength that I have when just on Test Prop alone but thats because I dont have all that extra water I think in me. Cardio is a breeze on this stuff but I'm also on EPO lol.. :evil: so dont take that for what I say. But if I were you, I'd start low like I did for a week and slowly bump it up.. thats what I'm doing, you feel me?
 
bmcadoo44 said:
bro, i am on 100mg prop, 75mg tren ace eod. I have been on for now a week and this cycle so far is great. My strength has gone up considerably already. Though the night sweats arent bad, i do sweat and get hot very easily throughout the day. I have been doing cardio for 30mins every day and i have already lost 7 pounds. This tren makes me pissed all the time tho and i sometimes get these headaches and start to sweat.

I am going try ED injections of 50/37.5 or i may bump up the dosage a little higher. not sure though.

Yeah, I'm on the same as you bro. Nice sweat are almost none at this dose. Sweating I do also but can manage. Have you been doing cardio since before you started using Tren or just when you started it. It makes you sweat at least 3 times more than normal. Headaches bro, I got that when I first started running this EPO and that can happen with tren also, you have to be careful when this happens as you can injure your body. This means you are dehydrated bro, very important , make sure you drink at least a gallon of water a day, if you can't down that much, pm me for my "water workout". I'll hit you up.. but make sure you get them fluids in.
 
thegoodfoods said:
danymal, I started my cycle the same exact day you did... I'm on Tren A 75mg/ed and Sustanon 250mg m/w/f. I'm not really noticing any difference other than a possible increased sense of well being (calmness)... I am starting to get acne on my shoulders and chest, also my piss is darkening, but no aggression or sweats or increased strength so far.

I'm subscribed to this thread and I'll be comparing our results... I'll chime in once in a while ;)

Piss darkening is from dehyration most defidinitly. I can feel I get a little more irritated out on the field with people or just in general, that also has to do with me not getting my full nights sleep or miss my nap during the day. I feel better overall though no doubt. I haven't got any acne on my shoulders or chest though as I never really have in my life. I haven't really noticed any increase in strength either though, its kinda pissing me off, but like I said up above... I do feel my body is transforming slowly. I mean, I feel like I'm 200lbs and I'm really 210lbs. Like my body is changing to fit the bodywieght and I havent really lost a step. For sure though, let us know how your doing bro every now and then, are you using pro form? I am, and I might have to try another source to compare if this stuff doesn't live up to everyone elses standards.
 
shrimp44 said:
I started this past monday of test E at 500mg a week and tren a 75 eod, no notices yet, did 2 shots so far, tomo 3rd....

Same here, is it PF gear?

I mean, If i have to bump this stuff to 150mgs ed in order to get strength results, I'm going to drop it. thats too much gear to be wasting for sorry results that i can get off 50mgs eod of test prop. I actually feel week on what im on right now than I was on 50mgs eod of test prop.. figure that one out
 
danymal04 said:
Same here, is it PF gear?

I mean, If i have to bump this stuff to 150mgs ed in order to get strength results, I'm going to drop it. thats too much gear to be wasting for sorry results that i can get off 50mgs eod of test prop. I actually feel week on what im on right now than I was on 50mgs eod of test prop.. figure that one out

I figured it out, its called your DIET
 
My diet huh.... well 2 1lb steaks a day, 2 protien shakes ... 1 gallon of water.. peanut butter on bread for breakfeast.. I'm not trying to gain weight, I'm looking for more strength... your right... must all be in my head and diet... what do you think I eat... you think I take gear, play sports and sit around and eat patato chips smoke cigs, drink beer, and fuck around all day. Dude, I'm trying to get better just like everyone else here, I'm looking for advice/helping people out that are thinking about getting this combo that is my same size, or has the same goals as me. Im not saying my diet is perfect... but I mean, only thing I can see is I'm getting hotter quicker and my muscles are harder when just chillin.. My strength is not what some people call "through the roof off of tren" my strength is avg...

Going to keept he dose up... going to stay on the E and B comp.. going to take my vitamins (Iron,Vit C,Baby Asprin,Glucosamine,Folic Acid,Daily Vit).. Hope it kicks in this week at this dose as I'll stay at this dose for the rest of the week. I'll report back tomorrow morning after lift
 
Well from the threads i read most people really feel it kick in, in week 3, so i guess we'll just have to find out....
 
danymal04 said:
Piss darkening is from dehyration most defidinitly. I can feel I get a little more irritated out on the field with people or just in general, that also has to do with me not getting my full nights sleep or miss my nap during the day. I feel better overall though no doubt. I haven't got any acne on my shoulders or chest though as I never really have in my life. I haven't really noticed any increase in strength either though, its kinda pissing me off, but like I said up above... I do feel my body is transforming slowly. I mean, I feel like I'm 200lbs and I'm really 210lbs. Like my body is changing to fit the bodywieght and I havent really lost a step. For sure though, let us know how your doing bro every now and then, are you using pro form? I am, and I might have to try another source to compare if this stuff doesn't live up to everyone elses standards.
I just came from my Chest/Bi workout and i FLEW past it. It went crazy fast. I got this crazy energy, but it's not like the jittery coffee energy, it's like a really good natural energy with a lot of focus. Yeah I almost knew my strength was up today because I felt so good. It was a let down.

No sweats as of yet. I am getting muscles twitches on my quads, glutes, and right forearm, though.

If the strength doesn't come soon i'm going to double the dose as it might be underdosed, or just use my recently-made homebrew that I was going to save for either later this cycle if I extend it or till next cycle... Peace...
 
I'll tell you one thing, my tren is legit because I did my 3rd shot and as i was finishing up injecting, i felt a wierd taste in my mouth, then started coughing for about 3 minutes, got real hot. So I layed in my bed and took deep breaths until it went away. So I guess I now know what the Tren Cough is...

We just have to be patient with this, lol the way people talk about tren on this board we all expect to do it for one week and then lift 10x more then we normally do, have a vieny 8 pack, and bench press busses
 
shrimp44 said:
We just have to be patient with this, lol the way people talk about tren on this board we all expect to do it for one week and then lift 10x more then we normally do, have a vieny 8 pack, and bench press busses
Definitely...

And i did get a metallic taste in my mouth like the third day... forgot to mention that... As of right now i feel kinda hot and very at ease and I can become excited easily. I have a great amount of energy during the day at the gym and at work... Tren is changing my perception of the world...... I like it :chomp:
 
MAST PROP

Is your body fat below 10 percent, if not, I would drop this. and go with tren and test,

I guess with that vial you can't, tren will Make it very difficult for cardio, and make your running hard,



Even with a low dose you will feel the sides on tren, very soon, and football practice will be a bitch.

Tren cough only happens when inject near or into a vessel, so plan on it once every 10 days, when it happens, you won’t miss it, just don’t freak out.

Give it one week to 10 days, because of the dose you are at.
 
solid spine.... i take it you didnt read the whole post... thats cool, i understand its a little long. bro i'm on epo and tren'mast'testp blend and its getting better. This stuff keeps me animal on the field. My body is looking good and have 2 more weeks on it so i'll hope for the best. feel good, no endurance problems when running even sprints, speed is up, strength is ok nothings greater than test though imo, no insomnia, actually might sleep better while on tren as i believe its all in your head, idk.. i like this but i'll def have to run it at a higher dose and for longer next go around. Will report back tomorrow night.
 
solidspine said:
Is your body fat below 10 percent, if not, I would drop this. and go with tren and test,

I guess with that vial you can't, tren will Make it very difficult for cardio, and make your running hard,



Even with a low dose you will feel the sides on tren, very soon, and football practice will be a bitch.

Tren cough only happens when inject near or into a vessel, so plan on it once every 10 days, when it happens, you won’t miss it, just don’t freak out.

Give it one week to 10 days, because of the dose you are at.

I like how you state that someone should plan on having tren cough at a pre-determined amount of shots. Thats crazy. I've done a good bit of tren. I'd have to say at the very least 100-150 shots at varying doses and have yet to ever experience anything remotely close to a tren cough.
 
Also my 12th day of my first Tren run. I woke up today really moody. I couldn't stop cursing (in my head) all day long. Got in the first argument with family memebers for over 4 months today. Although I was very moody and easily pissed off at anything all day long I found myself working at a very nice pace (I basically build houses). Found another pimple on my chest. Didn't go to the gym today so can't tell if strength is up yet. Will post tommorrow for an update.
 
thegoodfoods said:
Also my 12th day of my first Tren run. I woke up today really moody. I couldn't stop cursing (in my head) all day long. Got in the first argument with family memebers for over 4 months today. Although I was very moody and easily pissed off at anything all day long I found myself working at a very nice pace (I basically build houses). Found another pimple on my chest. Didn't go to the gym today so can't tell if strength is up yet. Will post tommorrow for an update.

Cool man, if you want just post you results in here too, I dont mind, that way people can get a beter idea of us both on the same page. Practice tonight went good, sore but can see body starting to reshape, feeling good, more serious moods nothing bizar, not fights, nothing worse than normal I'd say. Breathing is good, back pumps early on but went away, might be from high sodium i had yesterday with the mac n cheese. Overall its going well.
 
danymal04 said:
Cool man, if you want just post you results in here too, I dont mind, that way people can get a beter idea of us both on the same page. Practice tonight went good, sore but can see body starting to reshape, feeling good, more serious moods nothing bizar, not fights, nothing worse than normal I'd say. Breathing is good, back pumps early on but went away, might be from high sodium i had yesterday with the mac n cheese. Overall its going well.

I'll chip in also because I am now on day 7 of my first Tren Ace Run @ 75mg EOD
Sleeping is normal, I just wake up around 6 because I have to piss so bad.
No signs of Acne, I have been Stand up Tanning and taking Tetracycline because I am Prone to it.
No signifigance changes in strength or breathing yet at the gym.
My urin is also darker
 
Urin will be darker from dehydration, gotta get them fluids as you sweat like twice as much as normal. I can start telling the effefcts on my body now as I'm starting to see imoproved muscle hardness and fullness. Overall feeling just is calm and regular I'd guess. little irritated at times but try not to let it get to me. Tryiing to keep the water intake up and foods healthy. Recovery is not as good, libido is not as good but can still get wood and nut when needed but not as good as plain old test. Otherwise everythings alright, will check bodyweight again tomorrow although doing a lot more cardio now and only lift 3 times a week, I dont think strength will improve greatly.
 
Just so you all know I'm not trying to hijack this thread, I'm only posting my results because me and Danymal started our first Tren cycles the same exact day. :)

I accidentally took 600mcg of Clen yesterday, holy shit i still felt the shakes up till today so my morning workout was slow but i did increase one rep on my Incline bench which is where i currently start my chest workout. Also worked my legs. when squatting the back was pumped, not as much as when i'm on dbol (yet). Reps went up for legs, too. And considering i'm on a cutter a one-rep gain on any lift is good progress. This is my first AAS Cutter so idk what to expect, but i have high hopes.
 
High hopes is what we all have lol. Back is pumping because your muscles are tight, try stretching at least 2-3 times a day or throw a little yoga in your daily routine. It might be tough at first but in a weeks time it'll all be good. Unless you dont mind having a pumped back then don't worry about it but I hate it when my back is too pumped to even move. Never used clen and probably never will, heard to many bad results with it.
 
WOW!!... well boys, good news!!

Tren is king... ha, kicking in now and can feel the strength upon me, body is trimming up... but yeah strength is up man, thats the big part, back down to 205lbs today and feeling good. But man, I can tell you this, I didn't inject two days ago and then jumped back on last night, and my blood levels must have been all over cause I couldnt sleep all night I was tossing and turning, finally I feel asleep at around 4:30-5 this morning and was asleep until 11. Glad to say stuff is starting to work out... oh yeah .. today is 2 weeks on blend. 2 more weeks to go!
 
danymal04 said:
WOW!!... well boys, good news!!

Tren is king... ha, kicking in now and can feel the strength upon me, body is trimming up... but yeah strength is up man, thats the big part, back down to 205lbs today and feeling good. But man, I can tell you this, I didn't inject two days ago and then jumped back on last night, and my blood levels must have been all over cause I couldnt sleep all night I was tossing and turning, finally I feel asleep at around 4:30-5 this morning and was asleep until 11. Glad to say stuff is starting to work out... oh yeah .. today is 2 weeks on blend. 2 more weeks to go!

Fucking awesome! Im on day 3 of prop 50mg/ ace 37.5 ED and I am pumped to get to week 2 and see some shit, lol
 
yeah bro, after the first week I bumped to 75mgs prop/75mgs mast prop/ 56.25 tren ace... wreckin shit out here... workout was easy as all get out today, supersets and all...
 
I think my strength is up today,too. My Deadlift is up 2 reps since a week and a half ago. My Row is up 2-3 reps, My Incline Bench is up 1 rep. I'm going to wait till tommorrow to see if it's REALLY the Tren because for a few days last week I ate more than I should've on my cutter and I'm worried that those extra calories might've boosted my strength mroe back to normal... Though I really think it's the Tren :evil:
 
well guys, I have been on prop/tren/winstrol for the past 2 weeks and i have lost 10 pounds but im stronger than ever now. My veins just bulge out 24/7, i feal damn good. i am sittin at 6'1 205 11% and fealing thin as hell. But dont get me wrong, i have been dieting great of late as tren doesnt make me that hungry my calorie intake has lessened.
 
No noticeable gains or pumps today in the gym. It's just like I maintained those 1 or 2 rep gains I got from Monday. I'm a little discouraged. I know this stuff is real because I got slight night sweats and I'm moody as hell, I'll explode on someone for some tiny reason.

I was going to run this cycle like this...

Sustanon 750mg/wk 1-12
Tren A 75mg/wk 1-7
(Possibly)Tbol 80mg/day wks 8-12

But should I extend it like this?

Sustanon 750mg/wk 1-12
Tren A 75mg/wk 1-6 and 12-16
Test Prop 100mg/day 13-17
Tbol 80mg/day wks 8-12

Or should I Just add the Prop somehwere in the first 12 weeks? Or leave it like it is?

Please critique.
 
danymal04 said:
WOW!!... well boys, good news!!

Tren is king... ha, kicking in now and can feel the strength upon me, body is trimming up... but yeah strength is up man, thats the big part, back down to 205lbs today and feeling good. But man, I can tell you this, I didn't inject two days ago and then jumped back on last night, and my blood levels must have been all over cause I couldnt sleep all night I was tossing and turning, finally I feel asleep at around 4:30-5 this morning and was asleep until 11. Glad to say stuff is starting to work out... oh yeah .. today is 2 weeks on blend. 2 more weeks to go!

wow, i feal the exact same way you do. I have been on tren for about 2 weeks and this shit is bad ass. Strength is through the roof and i dropped from 217 to 205 in a week. Also lost a percent in body fat and im cuttin up quite nicely.

How tall are you danymal?

Im 6'1 so I would think are body types are relatively the same except i know my chest is twice the size of yours.

If your tryin to get chizzled, i recomend sitting in a sona for 30mins. While on tren you sweat like 3 times as much so when your in the sona, your soaked when you come out. But you probably already know this.
 
You guys are lucky! I don't notice many beneficial gains so far, other than maybe 2-3 pounds lost. No good strength gains. MAYBE I look a bit harder. I'm slowly getting more lethargic. Workout was crappy today. I'm getting discouraged...
 
thegoodfoods said:
You guys are lucky! I don't notice many beneficial gains so far, other than maybe 2-3 pounds lost. No good strength gains. MAYBE I look a bit harder. I'm slowly getting more lethargic. Workout was crappy today. I'm getting discouraged...

How long you been on bro? same right? Idk what to say, bump it up a little more. Thats kinda what did it for me. I jump around from 50mgs ed to 75 mgs ed depends on how I feel.

I'm 5'11 and weigh 205lbs still maintaining. Have had a crap diet this past week cause I havent been able to get the to the store and get some decent shit. This weekend I'll pick up so more food. Yeah the sauna thing sounds great but I'm on E too so I can't get to dehydrated, you feel me? Im sure excersising in the one of them would be even better, Idk, If I do it, I'll just go in for a 10 minutes, nothing to lenghthy
 
danymal04 said:
How long you been on bro? same right? Idk what to say, bump it up a little more. Thats kinda what did it for me. I jump around from 50mgs ed to 75 mgs ed depends on how I feel.

I'm 5'11 and weigh 205lbs still maintaining. Have had a crap diet this past week cause I havent been able to get the to the store and get some decent shit. This weekend I'll pick up so more food. Yeah the sauna thing sounds great but I'm on E too so I can't get to dehydrated, you feel me? Im sure excersising in the one of them would be even better, Idk, If I do it, I'll just go in for a 10 minutes, nothing to lenghthy
Yeah we started the same time. I've asked for advice and some (about half) people say it should kick in by week 3. Different people notice it faster than other people.

So are you feeling great like energetic and all? Or do you feel tired all the time. First I felt great but in the past 2 days i've felt like crap. How are your workouts goin' (intensity-wise)?
 
all depends on my sleep how i feel, i get little sleep, i feel moody, if i do get sleep, i feel better than normal... workouts are going good, intensity is the same. idk if its cause i've lifted for so long or what but shits just easier and i can get supersets in easy.. getting more shreded.. night sweats have gone away though
 
I feel it working now. I feel like total crap and am tired all day long except in the gym. My strength is up and, like danymal said, I superset with ease
 
Bro's , after 3 weeks, I can tell you this stuff is good stuff. Puts all others in the rear when it comes to staying lean and making strength gains. Strength gains alone are close but idk if better than just test or test and eq. This stuff is awsome though, keeps you lean, gives you a good feel for life. No sides other than night sweats but as you can see I've not experienced that in a grip. Only side really is the increased in heated body temp. No stamina effects.... oh yeah, back pumps but I believe that was from eating my girls make and cheese she made yesterday but I've upped my water and kept clean. Later
 
I'm getting crazy back pumps when deadlifting and squatting. Annoying night sweats last night. Strength is up. I might extend it to 10 weeks as long as the strength and/or fat burning effects will last.
 
Im leaning towards blends from now on,they seem like
the way to go .good post.
Brad.
 
I read this whole thread and love it!!!!!!!!!!!!! I like how everyone is encouraging and helping you. We need more of this in here. There are too many threads that turn into flamming wars :( That is one of the reasons why I dont post much. Keep us posted with your results and keep up the good work;)
S_P
 
thegoodfoods said:
I'm getting crazy back pumps when deadlifting and squatting. Annoying night sweats last night. Strength is up. I might extend it to 10 weeks as long as the strength and/or fat burning effects will last.
I'm tellin you bro, key things to cut on the back pumps.... if you are serious.. like dead serious to get rid of that shit cause thats the only way to go about life.. NO half assing shit.. if you want to get rid of back pumps do these things I will list below.. if not, ignore what I have to say

1) Stretch your hamstrings a lot... more than normal, before you go to bed, when you wake up, before you lift, after you lift make it a habitt... maybe even do yoga, that shit helps

2) drink your fuckin water... too many people take this and dont drink enough water.. even period people in life don't.. its key

3) lower your damn sodium... you hear me bro, lower it.. especially before lifting.. check the boxes.. us as people get in way too much sodium the way it is

This is not directed directly towards you.. just to the public.. you can't fuck around when it comes to this stuff.. if you want to get serious about your lifting and your disconfort.. go at it the right way bro... the more more flexible you are also, the more powerful you are... good luck!
 
all i have to say is tren is what they say it is in the end...only ran it for 4 1/2 weeks. today was the last day folks... and i'll tell you this, i can't wait to run it again! .. love handels were cut down and strength is up and speed is up. pumps are straight only ran it at 50mgs ed really throughout with a bump up every now and then. ran along with epo and i can tell you that the epo is money. Never tired.. two breaths and back to go again. Enjoy whoever is running it and if you doubt it.. just stay at it is all the advice i can give you because its nasty awsome. agression really is good but nothing major and doesnt effect social life if anything makes it better. im out though, good luck
 
well my 4 week tren run has just came to a close. I lost 12 pounds and a percent or 2 in body fat. My stats as of now are 6'1 207lbs 12%. Once i started doin 45-60mins of cardio every day, that really kicked the fat burning. I started gaining a little strength in the first couple weeks but then my shoulders/elbows/knees started aching like hell so i had to back off on the heavy weight. I am very pleased with what i have gained. I will be cutting and cutting till im down to 6-8% and then il see whats up with running another cycle.
 
how come only 4 1/2 weeks?

I am about to start week 5 this coming monday, and i've been doing 75mg EOD, i have to kick my diet up a little bit, i've gained about 5 lean ass pounds, and my abs have come out, I think i am gonna take this to 6 weeks!
 
I enjoyed this thread.

Thanks for the info on the "how to prevent back pumps", danymal. Now that I know those tips I'm gonna need to cut down on sodium... A LOT lol.

Now for my update: I'm a few days into week 4, same as danymal. I started to really notice it in the beginning of week 4, I guess it depends on the person. for the first time since my last cycle I'm getting NIce shoulder pumps when training them. My max bench shot up by 10lbs. Calf pumps when doing calf raises are strong and prevalent. Shoulders are becoming more striated. Veins on my shoulders and upper chest are beginning to become prevalent.

From weeks 1-3 I was pretty tired most of the time. I've read that it's because my nandrolones are much higher than my Testosterone levels. Well that problem is gone, I feel motivated throughout most of the day now.

And lastly, I'm getting VERY FEW sides. Ever-so-slight night sweats. I only sweat in the back of my neck and head (really weird). Anger is only slightly increased. When I'm in the market and some fat lady walks as slow as a turtle right in fucking front of me I feel like pushing the damn woman down and kicking her in the legs so she'll have reason to walk slow. No trouble breathing. And NO tren cough.

I LOVE STEROIDS!
 
Here's some info on Tren... IT'S THE SHIZNIT! I got more vascular and cut, just came off last week, still running some Test Prop though. Also I'm running Tbol @ 70mg/day and Winny @ 50mg/day. I can't wait till next cycle. I got 8 grams, can't wait! Imma run it at 100mg/day for almost 12 weeks.
 
thegoodfoods said:
Here's some info on trenbolone... IT'S THE SHIZNIT! I got more vascular and cut, just came off last week, still running some Test testosterone propionate though. Also I'm running Turanabol @ 70mg/day and Winstrol - stanozolol @ 50mg/day. I can't wait till next cycle. I got 8 grams, can't wait! Imma run it at 100mg/day for almost 12 weeks.

Dang bro, 100mgs ED for 12 weeks, thats heavy stuff... expect some sides with that but yeah dude.. if you keep your diet to a minimum... you will be ripped off this stuff... never tried tbol but winny is pretty straight too... i actually might get back on some of that coming up here pretty soon.. another good cutter
 
you will really start feeling the tren around the 2 week mark, if you are going to get sides, you'll probably get them close to the 2 week mark also. ARE you running any ai or anti prolacitin such as cabaser with it? might want to consider it to prevent any sides that may arise.
 
I've used tren for, what, 9 weeks or sumthing? No sides except night sweats and sOme lethargy. I've used letro @ 0.5-1mg ed and some AIFM. I will consider bromo for the upcoming cycle. Also I will use Adex and maybe letro or AIFM for bloat. It's gonna go a little something like this. Keep in mind that letro OR AIFM works well for bloat for me.

wks 1-6 dbol 50mg/day
wks 1-12 Omnas 1000mg/wk
wks 1-12 Tren Ace 100mg/day
wks 13-16 Test Prop 100mg/day
wks 10-16 probably Tbol 80mg/day
Adex .5mg/day
AIFM 5-6 pumps/day
Letro if needed
Sylivit (liver detox) wks3-6 3 (150mg) caps/day

PCT

Nolva
AIFM
Aromasin
Essentiale forte (liver regeneration) 6 (300mg) caps/day

I've been on tbol at 80mg/day for 10 days I believe and I'm beginning to like the results. Size is coming slower than dbol does but I bet the gains will be more maintainable.
 
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