hammertime30
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18 days into dbol cycle and as I was jogging from my car to my office, the back pump kick in....ouch!!! Anyone have the scientific knowledge as to what exactly causes the back pumps such as lack of water, maybe toxic build up in the liver (yes I take milk thirstle), high protein maybe...somebody...anybody?

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... 250mg test cyp, 400mg EQ for 12 wks and may stretch it to 16 wks depending on gains by the 10th wk. Also I use liquidex at .5mg eod with milk thirstle and saw palmetto. First cycle so I'm testing my tolerance levels and system response and adjusting as I go.