dammit i can't make up my mind!!

[Mike P.T.]

ok here's the thing. in January i wanted to start leaning out and do a small cycle to help me as well. i've decided to hold off and bulk til mid feb-march time. i get by with low dose cycles but am ready to do a pretty descent one but yet again, i can't make up my mind. experienced bro's and mods give me suggestions on a 12 week cycle to do for spring. a good one. moderate, yet not extreme. goals are to maintain, maybe even build some muscle but to really get nice and lean. (im big enough i feel.) sorry for those who feel that u can never be big enough. hehe

p.s. i now have pretty much access to anything so keep that in mind.


*no offense but no newbie opinions please

 

[jc21]

i would say do a long 12 week cycle where the first 6 weeks is bulk and the second 6 weeks is cutt and maintain

weeks 1-8 test 750-1000/wk
weeks 1-5 dbol ?
weeks 1-10(12) eq 400-600mg/wk
weeks 6-12 fina 75mg/day
weeks 7-12 winstrol 50(100)mg/day

bring in the anit-e's and clomid and you got yourself a cycle. maybe a little t3 and(or) clen at the end. hope u liked it(karma would be great! )

disclaimer: remember i dont know your stats or previous cycle experience. it is hard when u arent advising a newbie.

 

[Willyumyum]

i would say do a long 12 week cycle where the first 6 weeks is bulk and the second 6 weeks is cutt and maintain

weeks 1-8 test 750-1000/wk
weeks 1-5 dbol ?
weeks 1-10(12) eq 400-600mg/wk
weeks 6-12 fina 75mg/day
weeks 7-12 winstrol 50(100)mg/day

bring in the anit-e's and clomid and you got yourself a cycle. maybe a little t3 and(or) clen at the end. hope u liked it(karma would be great! )

disclaimer: remember i dont know your stats or previous cycle experience. it is hard when u arent advising a newbie.

mmmmm... I like that.. That's a nice cycle... In addition, you gotta make sure your diet is in check.. Your diet will REALLY dictate the outcome of any cycle... If you want help planning your diet shoot me an e-mail

YUM

 

[IronFist]

The above cycle looks good to me...I think you should run test prop from weeks 9-12 after you dump the enanthate, though...

 

[Mike P.T.]

thx bro's good opinions. bump for more replies.

p.s. hehe thx willyumyum but im excellent on dieting aspects. at my gym alot of the trainers actually ask me for opinions when it comes to dieting aspects. lol and im the youngest ones there. hehe. im pretty well balanced when it comes to the fitness world.
this and the chat boards are the only ones im really interested in on these boards.

jc good karma for you when refuel

 

[Willyumyum]

thx bro's good opinions. bump for more replies.

p.s. hehe thx willyumyum but im excellent on dieting aspects. at my gym alot of the trainers actually ask me for opinions when it comes to dieting aspects. lol and im the youngest ones there....

That's cool bro, just trying to offer some help to a bro, if needed

YUM

 

[jc21]

IronFist The above cycle looks good to me...I think you should run test prop from weeks 9-12 after you dump the enanthate, though...

i agree.. damn i didnt think about that

 

[Mike P.T.]

That's cool bro, just trying to offer some help to a bro, if needed

YUM

good karma for you both when i refuel. im all out.
bump for more replies. i want all the replies i can get. this whole thing is spinning in my head like crazy. hehe. can't make up my mind. i must have thought up over a dozen cycles already myself.

 

[jc21]

i have the same problem so i just take everything...

 

[Mike P.T.]

i agree.. damn i didnt think about that

good point he brought up. but if i were to go with his cycle anyway towards the end i would stay away from the test to prevent any excess bloat that might occur. i know some of u miht argue that test propionate gives less bloat but i know test is test. its just a matter of time release. i will be taking liquidex though to prevent any further estrogen buildup during the cycle so therefore less fat and water retension. since sex drive may be a problem i'll just take some proviron at 50mg a day. it will help harden my physique up as well.

 

[panerai]

What are your stats right now? And what your last heaviest cycle looked like? How old are you?

 

[Mike P.T.]

What are your stats right now? And what your last heaviest cycle looked like? How old are you?

stats - 5'10 - 235 pounds about 15% bf

heaviest cycle:
500mg a week sus
20mg ed d-bol - no joke. pretty mild huh

im 21 years old. did my first cycle right before i turned 20. have done a few since then.

 

[genarr3]

This is what I'm doing:

*************Propionate*****Sustanon******Winstrol
Week 1 - 4****100mg EOD*****500mg***************
Week 5 - 7******************500mg***************
Week 8&10******************500mg********50mgED
Week 11&12******************************50mgED
Week 13 Clomid Therapy

 

[panerai]

I would do:
Propionate 100mg eod for two weeks;
Enanthate 500mg/week for 8 weeks(600mg/week if T200);
Propionate 100mg/eod for weeks 11-12;
Trenbolone 150mg/eod for 12 weeks;
Cycle Clen/ECA alternating them every two weeks through the whole cycle and Clomid therapy.
Cytomel(T3) up and down for the last 4-5 weeks of the cycle.
Arimidex, .25mg/day through the whole cycle, or Cytadren 250mg/day.
Addition of Proviron, 50mg/day for last 6 weeks would be a good idea also.
Strict diet, high in protein, cardio.

 

[Mike P.T.]

ok thx bros i've made up my mind. gonna do

weeks 1-12 500mg sus, enanthate, or cyp
weeks 1-12 400mg eq
weeks 1-4 25mg d-bol ed
weeks 5-14 50mg proviron ed (for increased hardness)
clomid post cycle as well as proviron 25mg ed

* gonna tak shots twice a week as well of b-12 (just wanna try)
*liquidex taken throughout cycle as well as post cycle during clomid treatment.

thx bros for the opinions. gotta set this in stone.

 

[Mike P.T.]

I would do:
Propionate 100mg eod for two weeks;
Enanthate 500mg/week for 8 weeks(600mg/week if T200);
Propionate 100mg/eod for weeks 11-12;
Trenbolone 150mg/eod for 12 weeks;
Cycle Clen/ECA alternating them every two weeks through the whole cycle and Clomid therapy.
Cytomel(T3) up and down for the last 4-5 weeks of the cycle.
Arimidex, .25mg/day through the whole cycle, or Cytadren 250mg/day.
Addition of Proviron, 50mg/day for last 6 weeks would be a good idea also.
Strict diet, high in protein, cardio.

damn just when i made up my mind. hehe this looks pretty good. might try this mid-summer. except for the clen though. my own reasons. don't like it personally. thx penerai

 

[MUSTANG_18]

I personally would do this
Testosterone at 500-600mg/week for weeks 1-10
Tren at 75mg/Day for weeks 5-12
Clomid post cycle
Liquidex at .50mg/Day through out until Clomid therapy is finished
With a good diet you will be able to reach your goals with this no problem. E-mail or PM me for any other help. Good luck my friend

M18

 

[Mike P.T.]

I personally would do this
Testosterone at 500-600mg/week for weeks 1-10
Tren at 75mg/Day for weeks 5-12
Clomid post cycle
Liquidex at .50mg/Day through out until Clomid therapy is finished
With a good diet you will be able to reach your goals with this no problem. E-mail or PM me for any other help. Good luck my friend

M18

argggghhhh!!! all these ideas splitting my head to pieces. hehe anyway looks good as well Mustang. very moderate indeed as i specified. hmmm what do u think about adding winny along with the tren for exta hardness and to limit the risk of progesterone like side's i "might" get from the fina. do u think some d-bol added from weeks 1-4 is a good idea too as i have seen youare an advocate of that and it looks good to me. also what do u think of the cycle i came up with honestly???

 

[MUSTANG_18]

argggghhhh!!! all these ideas splitting my head to pieces. hehe anyway looks good as well Mustang. very moderate indeed as i specified. hmmm what do u think about adding winny along with the tren for exta hardness and to limit the risk of progesterone like side's i "might" get from the fina. do u think some d-bol added from weeks 1-4 is a good idea too as i have seen youare an advocate of that and it looks good to me. also what do u think of the cycle i came up with honestly???

D-Bol would not be the best choice if your looking to maintain a hard, lean and vascular look. Progesterone sides from Tren are VERY rare but Winny along side it could not hurt and would make a great addition to the cycle. I really think Tren-Test is all you need in a cycle and the rest is up to your diet. The other drugs are just back up LOL!

M18

 

[Mike P.T.]

D-Bol would not be the best choice if your looking to maintain a hard, lean and vascular look. Progesterone sides from Tren are VERY rare but Winny along side it could not hurt and would make a great addition to the cycle. I really think Tren-Test is all you need in a cycle and the rest is up to your diet. The other drugs are just back up LOL!

M18

i was thinking the d-bol in the beginning to act as a front load while the full effect of the test is kicking in. also, by the time summer was around the water retension from the d-bol would b gone since im doing it only for 4 weeks. i see your point though and it probably is a better idea not to use it so i'll be harder from the get-go going into spring.

all these good ideas. thx everyone for the replies. i'll let you know how it goes. hehe knowing me Mustang i can never make up my mind. was supposed to go on tha cycle u planned out for me in January and look... i changed my mind and decided that i wouldn't juice until spring. shit can u believe its been close to half a year since a needle has struck in me or an c-17 alkylated tab has reached my liver waiting to do its nasty deed. hehe ok well, getting out of hand here. its late. thx again bro's.