I just completed my first run with d.bol for 4 wks @ 20mg ed as a kickstart for a 10 wk cycle of test e. I noticed a slight strength increase after 7 days, a big difference after 12-14 days. By the end of 4 wks, well, I'll be using d.bol again you can bet on that. I only gained about 5 lbs bodyweight but my strength really took off. I didn't want to gain around my mid-section so I kept my food intake resonable. Using arimidex @ .5mg eod. Have not felt bloated.