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D-bol results vs 1-Test results

geoboy

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laugh if you must.

cycle 1- 8 weeks
var 20 mg day
1-TU 3 caps a day
result - big, lean, kept almost all (about 15 of 20 pounds) lost fat, gained muscle. BUT Shed hair - lots of hair (the 1test) AMAZING pumps and vascularity.

cycle 2- 8 weeks
var 20 mgs ed
denkall dbol 20 mg ed
.25 arimidex ed
about 10 mg proviron ed
result - not so big, not so lean, still some bloat even with anti-a, lost about 40% of 15 pounds. No shedding, but added topical spiro 5% for the dbol and proviron. not so amazing pump or vascularity.

diet same on both.
no contest IMO. next try first cycle again but add the spiro.

anybody who says 1-test isn't the real deal probably hasn't tried it.

any other similar comparisons out there?
 
I have been thinking of buying some 1-test powder and making the enanthate. I can get bulk powder pretty cheaply. The only thing that really gives me pause is I hear it makes for a very painful injection. I am not into pain, LOL.
 
You know that the bigger you get the slower the gains come right? Also you say the diet is the same on both, but on the second cycle since you were bigger you should have upped calories. Not a fair comparison at all
 
While I am a big believer in going the legal route JonP does have a point.

If you did the 1-TU cycle first it wouldn't be surprising if the second cycle didn't do as much.

For all you know the first cycel could have been mostly the var.

3 caps is a pretty low dosage.

That said there is no doubt the shit (legal shit, not necessarily 1-TU because I don't know enough about it) works.
 
points taken. In terms of appearence while on, and retained gains (diet point notwithstanding) I'll take the 1-tu over dbol.

I'm still lighter/less muscle from where I was 10 years ago, so muscle memory thing should apply to both cycles.

I felt better on dbol tho, 1-test made me tired and no libido (the proviron i'm sure helped on the dbol cycle).
 
Yeh proviron is a factor.

Plus when one does a cycle, the further they get from their natural limit the harder it is to grow muscle. That is why first cycles are so effective. Not because of receptors. And that is why you have to take more and more.

So this is the first time you have taken steroids?
 
try some different dbol for a better pump...I get wicked pumps from using pink thai's even at 20mg/day...I will admit I haven't used 1-test myself, I am only speaking for the dbol...
 
prob could have gotten better dbol pumps w/o the arimidex and proviron, but can't deal with the waterface.

also, one hypothesis why the var/1test was better than the var/dbol, i remember reading a study that var 'potentiates' the muscle androgen receptors or words to that effect. since the 1test is more androgenic than the dbol, that may influence the result. iow, no var, the comparison might yeild different result.
 
Parabellum said:
Who manufactures 1-test? Post a link to a site?
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theres lots of 1-test products:
1-tu by nutrex
1-t ethergels by molecular nutrition
1-ad (sort of a 1-test prohormone as it metabolizes into 1-test) by ergopharm
theres more but these are all reputable descent price etc.

check netrition.com for all.
 
hey geoboy,
i tried that 1-tu, but had to quit taking it after about 3 days, how can you stand the taste and spell of that shit. I could taste it every time i burped for about 3 hours after every pill, and it smell alone was almost enough to make ya puke
 
It's a special coating it has or something? It does taste bad but it wasn't enough to make me burp its taste for 3 hours. I mean common these things dissolve in your stomach. Eat a banana and it should suppress the taste, even when you burp. Usually when I take a protein shake I eat a banana, this makes the burping less nasty.
 
the new pills are different- no funky coating. I never had a problem with the taste or burping, but I've read this in other posts too.
 
You might want to try some testagen depot from german american technologies. It has the either delivery system, which would lead me to believe that it wouldn't work very well. But i tried a cycle of it before i knew much about this, and got real good gains. and by the way, don't mess with that testabol 1-test crap, got no results, and suffered from cronic headaches and nosebleeds.
 
Geoboy, did you stack the 1 TU with anything? I've been wanting to do a cycle for awhile now but don't know how to do it corectly from start to finish. I don't waste my time and money. Also, I allready have hair loss and don't need to loose any more is there something I can take during the cycle to help this/ Thanks for any help.
 
Mydillyo said:
Geoboy, did you stack the 1 TU with anything? I've been wanting to do a cycle for awhile now but don't know how to do it corectly from start to finish. I don't waste my time and money. Also, I allready have hair loss and don't need to loose any more is there something I can take during the cycle to help this/ Thanks for any help.
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the first post in this thread lists my stack. if you want to stack with an OTC, they usualkly suggest 4-ad, but i would prefer boldione (prohormone for boldenone).

for hair loss on 1test and similar non-5ar supplements/steroids use topical spironolactone 5% (see minoxidil . c o m)- seems to work but use caution if you're predisposed to mpb.
 
While I am a big believer in going the legal route JonP does have a point
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Not to be an ass...But if we are talking about the law and "suppliments"...we should all consider the fact that at one point (early 70's -?) all, what we call ILLEGAL supps were legal. Lou Ferrigno used to have his mother run to the store down the street from his house to pick up a few bottles of D-Bol for him. Im not being an ass but im asking a serious question becuase i wanna hear what you people think if this. Say tomorrow the gov't passed a law that now 1-ad is illegal?? Is the now wrong to take??

Im not on roids nor have i ever been...but dont forget roids are given to patients as medicine (of course when actually being taken for the right reason)...Its not like crack or heroine where it has one sole purpose...Its actually a pharm product.
 
ThePizmo said:


Not to be an ass...But if we are talking about the law and "suppliments"...we should all consider the fact that at one point (early 70's -?) all, what we call ILLEGAL supps were legal. Lou Ferrigno used to have his mother run to the store down the street from his house to pick up a few bottles of D-Bol for him. Im not being an ass but im asking a serious question becuase i wanna hear what you people think if this. Say tomorrow the gov't passed a law that now 1-ad is illegal?? Is the now wrong to take??

Im not on roids nor have i ever been...but dont forget roids are given to patients as medicine (of course when actually being taken for the right reason)...Its not like crack or heroine where it has one sole purpose...Its actually a pharm product.
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not to get philosophical, but you make it sound like it's a moral issue. it's not a question of wrong or not wrong, just legal or illegal. like 1 day I can smoke in a NYC bar, the next day that makes me an outlaw thanks to Mayor Blommy. or I can have sex with my 17 year old girlfriend in New York and it's perfectly legal, but if i bang her in California, it's statutory rape. you get the idea.

G. Gordon Liddy calls it the distinction between a "malum prohibitum" and a "malum in se" . that is, something which is inherently "wrong" like murder, and something which is "prohibited" merely because the city council or the state legislature or the congress passed a law against it. Juice is a malum prohibitum.

:angel:
 
Thats exactly what im saying...

He said "im not to take the illegal route"...and then putting it down some in his reply. But i was curious of why?? just becuase its illegal? or becuase mentally humans have an image that just becuase something is illegal its bad for you (which isnt true)....and just becuase it is legal its good for you.
 
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