d-bol and winny?

[gurupimp6969]

Alright I need a little help here now over at anabolex.com there board, there are a lot of posts on mixing to 17aa steroids together especially d-bol and winny. Now my question is I know these are very toxic on the liver and I know that you should never do more then one oral at a time especially these two. Now one of the guys over there asked a very interesting question. "What if you took 25mg/eod of d-bol, and then 25mg/eod of winny?" Would this be a good combination? How toxic would this be on the liver? I am just curious about this because none of them guys have any replies to the question. SO I figured I would bring it here to ask the pros. Let me know what you guys think. Thanks bros

 

[gurupimp6969]

bump, little help here fellas.

 

[gurupimp6969]

help please.

 

[Thaibox]

I'm finishing up a Omna/Deca/D-bol/winny cycle right now. I planned on stopping the D--bol at 5 weeks, then starting up the winny. But my dumbass overlapped them for a few days. Now, this could be a weird coincidence from some other variable I'm not seeing, but I got sick as fuck. All of my joints ached, I was fatiqued like a big fat dude, my midsection killed, I could not eat anything at all, and I always felt dizzy. By the way, I was only taking 20mg D-bol and 20mg Winny. My girlfriend's a nurse and when I was at her place she said my eyes and skin were yellow. She then started yelling at me that my liver had shut down. I stopped the orals for a few days and upped my Milk thistle/cranberry. After 2 or 3 days my appetite came back and I started lifting again. I'm on low winny right now and everything is fine.

 

[Thaibox]

If any mods read this could you let me know where all of my posts went please. I went from several hundred down to a newbie with a new reg date. Thanks

 

[THeMaCHinE]

I think the toxicity issue is way overstated. I've personally gone 100 mg ed of 17aa for 7 weeks without adverse sides. "High" 17aa dosages are pretty common if you do a little asking around.

 

[Wrongun]

Bro let me tell you IMO and speaking from experience Dbol and winny are a great combination. I just did 50mg ED Dbol, 50mg ED Winny, 10mg Nolva, T3 (pyramid) for 8 weeks. Got great results (hard and lean with an increase of 14lbs). Had virtually no water retention and strength was through the roof.
I am now on (straight after) Clomid, Armidex, Anavar, Clen (alternate after 2 weeks with e/c/a) and still kept 13lbs of gains (3 weeks in).

A lot depends on your tolerance to 17aa's i know i have a high one but as long as you take milk thistle cranberry etc i do not think this is uncommon.

Of course listen to your body as it knows best.

Good luck

 

[Sleepy]

I am currently taking both 40mg anavar and 15mg dbol ED and had no problems(12 days so far). I know the dbol is pretty low but still no pains from liver or kidney problems. Taking 1000mg milk thistle daily

 

[gurupimp6969]

Wrongun hey bro I was just wondering, I was taking winny at 50mg ed for 4 weeks I didn't really notice anything but then again my diet wasn't strict but anyways at about 4th week my balls hurt so damn bad that I had to quit taking it, like three days later the pain went away. Can I ask you why you were taking 10mg of nolva? thanks bro.

 

[bbigman2000]

Hi bro, ok there is no problem doing this unless youalready have liver problems, from heavy drinking or abuse of anadrol etc.
Problem is though winny is weak as hell in oral form and you really need 50mg to do any dam good atall.
However if you want to try it I see no problem with it at all, this whole thing about 17aa orals taxing the liver is bollocks, for me anyway, I have had 4 liver tests in the last year and I have taken all sorts of crap and mine is still 100% normal.

 

[strengthmonster]

Why not use injectable winny. I know it is still 17AA but is LESS harmful than taking it orally due to their being no first pass.

 

[Wrongun]

bbigman2000 i agree with you totally.
As i say IMO the whole thing about 17aa's has been blown out of proportion. This is my opinion as like you i have had liver checks etc and am ok. If like you say you are a heavy drinker then i can see more reasoning.

gurupimp6969 i took the 10mg Nolva so as to keep excess water retention down. I am prone to water retention and have found that although i lose a little in strength gains the whole result is better and more likely to keep.
I would also say that i agree with bbigman2000 and would say for best results you need to be on 50mg ED Winny. I have tried less and more but see to find if you are mixing Dbol and Winny that 50mg ED of each is the best combination.
Not sure about your balls as i can honestly say that i have had no problems whatsoever. Again i might just have a high tolerance. I am sure others will be better placed to help you on that one.

Good Luck Bro but i have found the Dbol and Winny combination very good.

 

[gurupimp6969]

Hey thanks fellas, great info. I think that I will give it a try and if anything starts to go bad I'll just down the dosage a bit. Oh and injecting the winny I would but I have these left over so therefor I might as well give this a shot. Thanks bros.