Cyp/deca/d-bol

[steel10]

I am still constructing my second ever cycle and just changed it for(hopefully) the last time-- as I have continued researching I have found more and more info-- much of it contradicting each other due to differences in opinions/philosophies. In any event, this is the cycle I have decided on and would like feedback.

My stats: 22yrs old, 197-200lbs @ 11-12% bf. First cycle was 10ampls of sust 250 over 8 weeks- gained 7 or 8 lbs.

Weeks 1-4: 25mg d-bol/day
Weeks 1-10: 400mg TKK cyp/week
Weeks 1-9: 300mg TKK deca/week
Week 12-15: clomid (I know dosages)

After doing so much research, it seems to me that the cyp goes better than sust...although there is seemingly a lot of argument against cyp being that I am still a newbie...

Anyway, what is the feedback on this?

Also, what should my injection schedule with the cyp be? The same as it would have been with sust? Twice a week and when injecting deca, could mix the two?

I know this is a lot, but I value the opinions of more experienced users. Thank you. Steel10

 

[rrwwdd]

Everything looks good, but I would consider front loading the deca and test. test twice a week with the deca will be fine. And yes you can mix them together.

I would also have some anti e's on hand just in case for the test and dbol. Liquidex wouldn't be a bad choice with all the water you may retain.

Good luck keep us posted.

 

[Willyumyum]

Weeks 1-4: 25mg d-bol/day
Weeks 1-10: 400mg TKK cyp/week
Weeks 1-9: 300mg TKK deca/week
Week 12-15: clomid (I know dosages)

looks pretty good to me, you could run the dbol a fifth week, that would be fine...

After doing so much research, it seems to me that the cyp goes better than sust...although there is seemingly a lot of argument against cyp being that I am still a newbie...

It's really up to you which kind of test to run... The multiple esters in sust make it harder to maintain a constant blood level, causing spikes of the drug in your system - which you don't want. That's why many people lean towards the single ester tests, there isn't really any guessing - injecting twice a week will keep the blood levels relatively constant, which is optimal...

Also, what should my injection schedule with the cyp be? The same as it would have been with sust? Twice a week and when injecting deca, could mix the two?

I would go for a monday/thursday, tuesday/friday type injection schedule.... And yes you can mix the two in the same syringe, just be sure to leave room to aspirate (in other words: don't fill the entire syringe...)

And defenitely have some arimidex/liquidex in there @ .5mg/day (or 1mg/EOD) throughout the cycle from day one until the end of clomid...

YUM

 

[Slyder190]

Changes

I'd run Cyp at 500mg a week. If you can only get 200mg amps, I don't think 600mg would be pushin it. Deca should really be run at no les than 400mg a week. Me personally, I'd bump d-bol to 30 - 35 mg a day. You could also run it 5 weeks if you want. You can mix cyp and deca. I'd break it up twice a week, say Monday and Friday. I'm currently into my 2nd week of Deca(400mg)/D-bol(40mg)/Cyp(500mg). I'll keep ya posted.

 

[genarr3]

It would be better if you injected twice a week, but not absolutely necessary. You could get away with one shot a week.

 

[steel10]

Thank you for the quick and informative responses-- makes me feel more confident about the choices I made.

One more question, I know this is really a bulking type cycle, but if I am looking to cut up a little torward the end (w/o adding any more gear to it), how would you do that? Cut carbs a bit, more cardio, higher reps/toning exercises, etc.?

I don't have the armidex, but do have nolva and will run it at first sign of excessive bloat and/or gyno...also, plan on using milk thistle during d-bol stage.

Yum-- I think I have read over at least 300 or so of your posts in the last few days and they have been incredibly helpful.

steel10

 

[Slyder190]

Cutting.

The cycle may lean you out depending on diet and total calories and what not. Not a whole lot, but it may make you noticeably a little bit leaner. It has happened to me. I wouldn't cut calories or even carbs too drastically, you might lose the gains you worked hard and paid $$$ for. Add cardio and clen post cycle and while you may not need the extra calories after the cycle, reduce them carefully. Remember at your new weight though, it will take more calories than before to maintain your weight.