cyle help

[the_only_sepe]

ok guys, I am on 250 week test enanthate, first inj. cycle, I am 5'11" 180 lb. 9%bf very first cycle played around with dbol for a while worked my way up to 4 a day, over a 4 week period, never really felt anything,strength went up, but no size, weight went up a bit from eating like a horse.


I am presently in the begining of my 4th week of a 10 week cycle, just did 4th inj. dont know whether ive given enough time yet or what, but dont feel anything, do I need more juice?? I ve got to grow!!! weight is up 4 lb. maybe from eating?



btw I have a very wide frame and have a lot of filling out to do!

 

[Beezers]

250 is a very low dose. You won't feel much kick from such a low dose, but it will still be enough to add lean body mass, albeit slowly and modestly. I would use 500mg weekly. At 250 you may not feel anything, but, providing you're eating right, you will add some pounds.

 

[jellyman01]

it should be kicking in any day...250 is a bit light but you should still get some moderate gains...give another week or maybe up it to 2 cc a week...what kind of enathate are you using?

 

[the_only_sepe]

schering testo depot

 

[the_only_sepe]

this is for my career and I want to hit 220 soon, maybe you guys can give me an logical plan to get there, I was hoping low dosages would work and stack test with some deca for a next cyc.

 

[the_only_sepe]

bump

 

[Beezers]

Bump for what? 250 is a light dose and won't "kick in". You will get slow and modest increases in lean body mass...perhaps 10 or so pounds over a ten week period. 500mg would be a more bennificial dose, but regardless you are'nt going to reach 220 on this cycle alone. 500mg is still a low dose of test and should be relatively side effect free unless you're one unfortunate SOB with awefull genetics. Up your dose or be patient and accept mild gains.

 

[the_only_sepe]

thanks for the reply beezers, well this is my first test experience and have been really eating well giving it 150% effort, I read about people gaining 22lb. on test alone and got all excited, I guess I will bump it to 500 I know there is no way I can hit 220 from this cycle alone, Ive done my studying for atleast a year b4 I took the plunge, would it be wise to run novaldex with my cycle of 500 or keep it on hand. Also I do have nizoral 2% and use it eod, hair loss is a major concern , I hate to bump the test up , due to increased sides, acne major reason. So should I just add deca at 200 a week to my 250 a week test to keep the androgens low? sory such a long post , but your the man , and thanks for all of the help.

to do test at 500 a week or deca and test stack 200/250 is the question.

 

[ikedani]

adding deca will not bring down the androgens any, they will stay the same but you'll increase protein sythesis, and hit different receptors by adding deca, and it will help solidfy the gains, running just test is asking for a big crash after your cycle

 

[ikedani]

oops i misread your post, I thought u meant adding deca would decrease the androgens in 500 of test a week, i did not see keeping it at 250

 

[deadheadred]

t o sepe
I'm running 400mg test w/ deca 200mg a week, very few side effects and have gained 22lbs. after 5 weeks. Seems pretty safe so far, you might want to try similiar.

 

[Beezers]

You risk just as much in the sides department if you add deca as you do if you up your dosage of test. I honestly don't think you'll have any problems at 500mg...I've not known anyone to have problems at this dose other than a zit or two and edema. Test sides are controlable. Deca sides are unpredictable and much, much harder to control. If you do up the test don't use nolva unless you start to get gyno, which is highly unlikely. Have it on hand for emergency only. I would suggest upping your test dosage and not adding deca at this point. You'll never know how you react to 500mg until you try it, but I personally think you're being far too paranoid.

And ikedani...Deca and Test DON'T use different receptors. All AAS use the androgen receptor. Just for future reference

 

[the_only_sepe]

thanks beezers, you helped out a lot , test it will be! I will send you karma

 

[ikedani]

maybe i missed stated, they have different mechanisms of actions