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cycling and surgery?

docchiro08

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ok bros, this could be a little long (i have a few different questions). first, i'm about to start a cycle (test/eq/winny) in the next few weeks. there's a slight possibility that i'll have to have some surgery mid-way through the cycle. missing workouts won't be a problem (the surgery would be very minor, but just enough to need anesthesia (SP?)), but i don't know if the anesthesia would have any adverse side effects with me being on gear. any help or opinions are more than welcome.

second, i'll start by giving you the specifics of my cycle: test 500mg/wk for 1-12 weeks, eq 600mg/wk for 1-15 weeks and winny 50mg/ed for the last 6 weeks of the cycle. my diet is very clean and ready to go. stats: 5'11", 200lbs, ~9-10% bf. i'm wanting to add a lean 15lbs, possibly 20 if it's feasible, and AT LEAST stay at my current bf or maybe lean out a bit more.

so, on to the questions.......1. would it be more wise to use a bulking diet for weeks 1-12 and more of a maintenance diet with a little extra cardio for the last 3-4 weeks? the idea being to add as much quality muscle as possible for the 12 weeks and then trying to shed a little of the gained bf while maintaining as much muscle as possible. the other option would be a bulking diet the entire cycle, then the maintenance diet with extra cardio. i've done 2 other cycles in the past, but both were done a very long time ago and not with the best of knowledge. up till now my bulking and cutting cycles have consisted of diet alone. because of this i already know how my body responds best for bulking, cutting, and maintenance diets.

next question is about pct's. my original plan was nolvadex 10-15mg/ed for the entire cycle and a 3 week cycle of clomid @ 100mg/ed, but after reading the latest post on the side effects of nolva and letro. i'm not real sure what i should do now. so should i stick with my current pct plan or does someone else have a better idea.

any help with any of my questions would be great! thanks guys
 
I had a face lift a couple of weeks after the end of a lengthy cycle, had serious complications with the anesthesia and swelling. Had to go back to the O.R. to relive the swelling. If I were to do it again I would wait longer to make sure all the gear was out of my system.
 
thanks for the reply solidspine. exactly how long would you wait if you had to do it over again?

and if anyone has answers to my other questions that would be great.
 
i had a motorcycle wreck JUICED ALL TO HELL bro, had to have two surgeries aftewards, no complications at all........but i would inform the doc before the surgery so they can just make sure
 
drrman said:
i had a motorcycle wreck JUICED ALL TO HELL bro, had to have two surgeries aftewards, no complications at all........but i would inform the doc before the surgery so they can just make sure

thanks bro. i thought i just read in another thread that if you tell your dr. about the gear use he could mention it in your medical file. then the insurance company could see this and either cancel your policy or deny any coverage that could have occured because of the gear. you got any advice for my other questions?
 
Consult with your Dr bro, anesthesia and surgery are serious things not to take lightly.......

IMO would hold the cycle till you get clear of your intervention
 
docchiro08 said:
thanks bro. i thought i just read in another thread that if you tell your dr. about the gear use he could mention it in your medical file. then the insurance company could see this and either cancel your policy or deny any coverage that could have occured because of the gear. you got any advice for my other questions?

Even if he puts it in your file; it's private info that usually is not revealed. This is because the doctor-patient relationship is usually always kept under wraps
 
AhMadKooL said:
Even if he puts it in your file; it's private info that usually is not revealed. This is because the doctor-patient relationship is usually always kept under wraps
This is true.... How old are you bro? How long has it been since you ran a cycle exactly? I think your dosages are too high and depending on age and how long it's been I wouldn't stack 3 different AAS just my opinion. Stick with 1 and an oral. Test would be best and 500 mg e/w should do the trick fine. I wouldn't take Nolva throughout use adex at .5 mg e/d instead and the nolva 20-40mg e/d at the end for pct with maybe some clomid. Also I had surgery and told my doc I took aas he freaked until I told him I had been off for 6 wks. he said it can lead to complications especially when it comes to infections after surgery. I guess if yours is minor its not as big of deal but i would talk to him about it for sure.
 
MILLENNIUM said:
This is true.... How old are you bro? How long has it been since you ran a cycle exactly? I think your dosages are too high and depending on age and how long it's been I wouldn't stack 3 different AAS just my opinion. Stick with 1 and an oral. Test would be best and 500 mg e/w should do the trick fine. I wouldn't take Nolva throughout use adex at .5 mg e/d instead and the nolva 20-40mg e/d at the end for pct with maybe some clomid. Also I had surgery and told my doc I took aas he freaked until I told him I had been off for 6 wks. he said it can lead to complications especially when it comes to infections after surgery. I guess if yours is minor its not as big of deal but i would talk to him about it for sure.

thanks for the advice bro, and to the others that left advice and opinions about the dr. thing! i'm 24 yr. old. my last cycle was done when i was 20. it was a test/deca cycle. i ran the test at 400mg/wk and the deca at 300mg/wk. it did help me put on some size, but the entire time i was cycling it seemed like i should have been on a little more (as far as dosages go). i was originally just going to go with test/eq cycle at the same dosages that i mentioned in the first post. then i got to thinking about running the winny the last 6 wks of the cycle and i kinda liked the idea. what do you think about my diet options that i mentioned in the first post? thanks again for your input and i'll definately take it into consideration!
 
docchiro08 said:
thanks for the advice bro, and to the others that left advice and opinions about the dr. thing! i'm 24 yr. old. my last cycle was done when i was 20. it was a test/deca cycle. i ran the test at 400mg/wk and the deca at 300mg/wk. it did help me put on some size, but the entire time i was cycling it seemed like i should have been on a little more (as far as dosages go). i was originally just going to go with test/eq cycle at the same dosages that i mentioned in the first post. then i got to thinking about running the winny the last 6 wks of the cycle and i kinda liked the idea. what do you think about my diet options that i mentioned in the first post? thanks again for your input and i'll definately take it into consideration!
Man you are pumping alot into yourself for 20 and 24 but to each their own. I wouldn't go that high and swap your winny for Var at like 40-50mg e/d just my .02. I would run that and test. that is the cycle I am doing now and already starting to see gains 2 wks in. I am just taking 250mg sust e/6days and 30-40mg var .05 arimidex e/d. Like I said though to each their own bro, your gona do what you're gonna do but remember more aas won't necesarily bring better results just more SIDES!!!! As far as diet goes I would talk to Mr X he has that shit down bro. You seem to know how your body reacts dto diet well so it would be whatever your preference. :coffee:
 
MILLENNIUM said:
Man you are pumping alot into yourself for 20 and 24 but to each their own. I wouldn't go that high and swap your winny for Var at like 40-50mg e/d just my .02. I would run that and test. that is the cycle I am doing now and already starting to see gains 2 wks in. I am just taking 250mg sust e/6days and 30-40mg var .05 arimidex e/d. Like I said though to each their own bro, your gona do what you're gonna do but remember more aas won't necesarily bring better results just more SIDES!!!! As far as diet goes I would talk to Mr X he has that shit down bro. You seem to know how your body reacts dto diet well so it would be whatever your preference. :coffee:
thanks bro. it's always good to have someone put things into perspective. maybe i did get a little carried away as far as the gear and dosages go. i'll re-evaluate my decisions and i'll try and get ahold of Mr.X about the diet. thanks again
 
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