Cycle without test?

[nolimitxxx]

I'm trying to stay away from test because i'd like to keep my hair but i've found that I reach a dead spot in my cycle when I cut the test off. Will I always have to take test in a cycle when my natural test is gone? If so can anyone recommend what kind of dos of finastride I should take to block the DHT?

 

[digit0x]

theres a few things you can try... i know bruce has had success with no test cycles subing in Proviron. Derm might work but you can only use it for 4 weeks at a time. Deppending on what else your cycle is composed of you may not need anything... however, have you considered running just a small dose of test just to fill in the gap? also, there are things you can take to help fight the hair loss... have never had a problem with this myself but you may want to look into it.

 

[Mac173]

1.25-2.5mg ed

 

[OMEGA]

At least use 250-300 a week
bros in the past wold do this WITH GREAT SUCCESS

v shape is one and look at his avatar

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=454368

 

[OMEGA]

http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/1544308893038957868yTLfIg he used about 250 a week on top of EQ and Primo I think

 

[Mac173]

At least use 250-300 a week
bros in the past wold do this WITH GREAT SUCCESS

v shape is one and look at his avatar

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=454368

Those are just good genes to have a waist like that.

 

[OMEGA]

yes and no

look at his pics year by year, thats HARD work:

http://community.webshots.com/album/46293815gLxCRM

 

[nolimitxxx]

Thanks for the response guys. This is what i'm running now - at 6' 225lbs

100mg of T3 testosteron tri-mix twice a week - 200mg a week- until I get propanate in – i'm using this just to keep my levels up
150mg of Masteron every other day
200mg of Primobolan depot every 2 days – 600mgs a week
500mg of Eq a week

 

[SpyWizard]

I'm trying to stay away from test because i'd like to keep my hair but i've found that I reach a dead spot in my cycle when I cut the test off. Will I always have to take test in a cycle when my natural test is gone? If so can anyone recommend what kind of dos of finastride I should take to block the DHT?

not if you find something that will keep your natural production of test going throughout the cycle..

the reason people take test is because steroids tend to suppress that function, and the effects are not desirable to say the least..

 

[nolimitxxx]

The only thing that I know of that would do that is HCG and although people make it out to be readily available it's pretty tough to find. Can you recommend anything else?

 

[omega529]

yes and no

look at his pics year by year, thats HARD work:

http://community.webshots.com/album/46293815gLxCRM

i dont mean to sound like a dick, but those year by year pics, arent verry impressive for being on AAS ive seen growth like that in less then 1 year from not only myself but a couple others i know.

 

[OMEGA]

i dont mean to sound like a dick, but those year by year pics, arent verry impressive for being on AAS ive seen growth like that in less then 1 year from not only myself but a couple others i know.

http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/1544308893038957868yTLfIg

 

[omega529]

also....pull ups are real good for v-shape.....up to the right- down - up to the left down ect...

 

[omega529]

http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/1544308893038957868yTLfIg

im assuming these pics have been from '01 up untill now.....i think that is INCREDIBLY slow growth for somone even not on AAS.......but still its a nice body im not arguing about that.

 

[nolimitxxx]

He's a good example of how NOT to use aas. He's trying to build and cut at the same time which everyone knows does not work.

 

[Cauliflower Ear]

my first cycle was 600mg eq with 8 weeks of var to start...i have since moved on to test which i love better but i kept 18 lbs off my first 16 week cycle

 

[UFC22]

100mg of T3 testosteron tri-mix twice a week - 200mg a week- until I get propanate in – i'm using this just to keep my levels up
150mg of Masteron every other day
200mg of Primobolan depot every 2 days – 600mgs a week
500mg of Eq a week

You will still get gains from 200mgs of test a week. It's still far above normal levels. Not as pronounced with the results, but results none the less.

 

[str8cubano]

You will still get gains from 200mgs of test a week. It's still far above normal levels. Not as pronounced with the results, but results none the less.

My first cycle was test 500mg/week. I grew 2 years later of a simple 250mg of test a week. Amazing, I think I was bigger too. Better training and more muslce of course, but 200mgs of test will get you big if you train and eat

 

[galaxy]

10mgs of nolvadex twice a day also helps libido if just using deca. Dostinex is also an option. .5mgs twice a week or even e5d.

 

[omega529]

He's a good example of how NOT to use aas. He's trying to build and cut at the same time which everyone knows does not work.

i disagree with that statement.......i have been able to build lean muscle and burn fat at the same time.....a good combo of cardio and weight lifting, but with much faster gains in overall size and a more defined look......

 

[SpyWizard]

i disagree with that statement.......i have been able to build lean muscle and burn fat at the same time.....a good combo of cardio and weight lifting, but with much faster gains in overall size and a more defined look......

damn right..

1-12 500mg test
1-6 50mg tbol
6-12 60mg var

60/30/10 diet...

High reps, low weights..

right there is a winning combination..

 

[Mac173]

i disagree with that statement.......i have been able to build lean muscle and burn fat at the same time.....a good combo of cardio and weight lifting, but with much faster gains in overall size and a more defined look......

Same here. I did it this cycle.
Diet has to be perfect to do it though.