Cycle Update - 5 weeks in!

[black sheep]

Okay everyone - I am mid way thru week 5 of the following cycle. I am up 8 lbs right now, a couple of which Fat/Water. I have been eating like crazy since day one of the cycle and have put on a little fat in the mid section. I am trying to add some Mass this time around.

I have dropped the Arimidex to .5mg eod instead of ED, as I think there is a chance it is contributing to my lethargy. I will finish the T-Bol this weekend, and I think that might be adding to this problem, as D-Bol made me very tired as well.

This cycle has been making me very tired during the day, and I have to nap daily.

My Libido is in the dirt right now, so I started HCG at 500iu's MWF, and I will continue that until the end of my cycle. I also have some Proviron on the way from an international source, so I expect that in about a week to 10 days. I will finish the cycle with Proviron at 50mg ED for the rest of the cycle. Hopefully those 2 will help fix that problem...

Week 1-14 Test LE 600mg/week
Week 1-14 EQ 600mg/week
Week 1-5 T-Bol 60mg ed
Week 5-14 HCG 500i.u's MWF
Week 1-14 Arimidex .5mg EOD
Week 16-20 Nolva 20mg ED
Week 16-18 Clomid 50mg ED

 

[Its All Genetics]

i heard people who use t-bols get results fast... like 15 pounds...
the test e wont kick in until around week 4-6 and the eq shouldnt until week 6-7 so give it some time. obviously if your running a cycle like this you wanted lean gains... so give it some time it will come and ull be please in the end. that eq hunger should kick in soon and u will be eating like a horse literallly

 

[black sheep]

i heard people who use t-bols get results fast... like 15 pounds...
the test e wont kick in until around week 4-6 and the eq shouldnt until week 6-7 so give it some time. obviously if your running a cycle like this you wanted lean gains... so give it some time it will come and ull be please in the end. that eq hunger should kick in soon and u will be eating like a horse literallly

Yes I wanted lean gains.. But I chose these compounds for a few reasons.

1. D-Bol back pumps are too much for me and not worth it IMO, and it makes me tired as hell

2. I suffer greatly from Deca Dick, and the wife hates it, so I need to stay away from it.

3. I want gains that I can keep most off, I am a ectomorph and don't want to gain big, then loose.. I try to gain little by little..

 

[bilter]

week 5 and you are on test, eq & tbol, why the drop in libido? Have never tried tbol myself, is that the cause.......just trying to gain some knowledge here.

 

[buckwheat1]

I have heard several people say that they were going to start using HCG to help increase libido while they were on a cycle with test.

I don't see how this would help. The hcg acts like LH to act on the testes to produce testestoterone. So I don't see how adding test when you are already taking a huge amount will help.

I can see how taking proviron my help since it will compete for receptors in the brain with testestosterone. Increasing the ratio of DHT to testosterone in organs that are sensitive to it.

 

[black sheep]

I have heard several people say that they were going to start using HCG to help increase libido while they were on a cycle with test.

I don't see how this would help. The hcg acts like LH to act on the testes to produce testestoterone. So I don't see how adding test when you are already taking a huge amount will help.

I can see how taking proviron my help since it will compete for receptors in the brain with testestosterone. Increasing the ratio of DHT to testosterone in organs that are sensitive to it.

Well I am not real sure that the HCG will do anything for libido either.. But since this cycle is going to be 14 weeks it will help keep my boys full, and should make recovery easier.

 

[boops]

hey bro
your drop in libido is most likely the result of taking the a-dex daily and the lack of estro in your system, you do actually need some estro to function normally (its not all bad)....the switch to EOD will more likely then not "help" things somewhat.....keep eating bro and goodluck with the rest of it...

peace

Well I am not real sure that the HCG will do anything for libido either.. But since this cycle is going to be 14 weeks it will help keep my boys full, and should make recovery easier.

 

[Makavelli]

I don't see the reason for the libido drop. You could add Proviron to help out there.

 

[black sheep]

I don't see the reason for the libido drop. You could add Proviron to help out there.

Yeah - like I said I ordered some Proviron and will have it in about a week or so. So I will jump on that..

I don't know what is causing the libido drop either.. Has to be the EQ...

I have taken everything else before, and always have a huge increase in libido by now, but not this time.

Best part of this cycle is the test and eq should be kicking in just about now!

 

[Makavelli]

Yeah - like I said I ordered some Proviron and will have it in about a week or so. So I will jump on that..

I don't know what is causing the libido drop either.. Has to be the EQ...

I have taken everything else before, and always have a huge increase in libido by now, but not this time.

Best part of this cycle is the test and eq should be kicking in just about now!

I don't think it would be the EQ. EQ doesn't tend to do that.

 

[black sheep]

I have been talking to Carth, and his Prolactin levels went thru the roof on EQ. Everyone says it is not possible... I dunno..

My last cycle which ended 4 months ago was a long run with Nandrolones (NPP then Tren) - I took dostinex throughout though.. Here is how things happened:

12 week cycle - Test all the way NPP first 6, tren last 6. My sex drive was thru the roof the whole time - Dostinex helped keep the Deca dick (Tren dick too for me) in check. My sex drive kept high all the way through PCT.. It started to taper off a few weeks after PCT ended.... It was "normal" after that.. I started this cycle and it never increased at all.. it decreased a bit..

I am going to run the HCG and Proviron, Run a good PCT at the end and give it a few weeks after that.. Then I will see what happens... I will go and get blood work done and see where I am at..

 

[markshark]

what about strength gains? im 4 weeks in so far and have seen very little on the size or strength parts. im bloated though and hornier but thats it. cant make any gains. currently on 450 mg/test and 300 deca/wk.

 

[needsize]

i heard people who use t-bols get results fast... like 15 pounds...
the test e wont kick in until around week 4-6 and the eq shouldnt until week 6-7 so give it some time. obviously if your running a cycle like this you wanted lean gains... so give it some time it will come and ull be please in the end. that eq hunger should kick in soon and u will be eating like a horse literallly

not sure where you get your info, but look somewhere else
you will have pretty much even blood levels of enth by the end of two weeks, where do you get the "it takes 4-6 weeks to kick in", same with eq, you wait two weeks after your last shot of enth before starting pct, but it takes a month to kick in?
Not even close

 

[Ozz2001]

not sure where you get your info, but look somewhere else
you will have pretty much even blood levels of enth by the end of two weeks, where do you get the "it takes 4-6 weeks to kick in", same with eq, you wait two weeks after your last shot of enth before starting pct, but it takes a month to kick in?
Not even close

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