Cycle Tweak Advice

[birchmanjr1310]

Hey guys. Quick run down of myself. I'm 5'8" 185lbs at about 15%. Been lifting for 10 years solid and my first cycle was test and deca about 4 years ago. Diet is about 85% dialed in. Eating about 3100 cals a day at a 40%protein 35%carbs 25%fats ratio.

I am piecing together my next cycle with the goal being a lean muscle gain with minimal bloat. Here's what I'm thinking and would love some pro advice, especially with the AI and the anavar.

Sust 250mg E3D- weeks 1-12
TBOL-50mg ED- weeks 1-8
Anavar-50mg ED- weeks 6-12

Aromasin- 10mg ED- weeks 1-12

PCT
Clomid- 100/100/50/50
Nolva- 50/50/25/25
Also running cycle support and taurine for the liver and blood pressure.

Let me know what you think. All help or suggestions is much appreciated.


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[stevesmi]

if you want minimal bloat then i would suggest dropping your test dose to just a TRT dose instead. you can swap in primo or EQ and take out 1 of those orals.

i think you would enjoy that cycle better

 

[birchmanjr1310]

if you want minimal bloat then i would suggest dropping your test dose to just a TRT dose instead. you can swap in primo or EQ and take out 1 of those orals.

i think you would enjoy that cycle better

Appreciate it. I'll drop the dose slightly

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[SteveMobsterG]

Let us know how you get on.

 

[birchmanjr1310]

Let us know how you get on.

Started today. I'm going to front load the cycle with 500mg of sust and 50mg of tbol. Aromasin at 10mg ED. Week 4 I'll roll the sust back a bit and start the anavar

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[dylangemelli]

Started today. I'm going to front load the cycle with 500mg of sust and 50mg of tbol. Aromasin at 10mg ED. Week 4 I'll roll the sust back a bit and start the anavar

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are you gyno prone bro? that might be too much aromasin to be using unless you have done it before that way and know how your body responds...

 

[birchmanjr1310]

are you gyno prone bro? that might be too much aromasin to be using unless you have done it before that way and know how your body responds...

Hey Dylan! I am not gyno prone that I know of. I've only ran one cycle prior and had no issues. You think I should go 10mg EOD on the aromasin?

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[dylangemelli]

Hey Dylan! I am not gyno prone that I know of. I've only ran one cycle prior and had no issues. You think I should go 10mg EOD on the aromasin?

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yes bro, thats overkill and i dont want you to crush your estrogen.. 12.5 mg eod is perfect.. you can assess.. some gyno prone people need more but most stay in that range and it works very well for them

 

[birchmanjr1310]

Alright. Sounds like a plan then. I'll roll the Aromasin back a bit. Thoughts on the rest of the cycle?

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[dylangemelli]

Alright. Sounds like a plan then. I'll roll the Aromasin back a bit. Thoughts on the rest of the cycle?

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way too much on the orals bro, way too much... let me just fix this entirely for you...

1-12 sust 500 mg week
1-14 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
1-6 tbol 60 mg day
1-6 dga organ st https://www.dganutrition.com/product/organ-st/
9-14 anavar 60 mg day
9-14 dga organ st https://www.dganutrition.com/product/organ-st/
11-14 post ct https://www.dganutrition.com/product/post-ct

pct 15-20

[FONT=&quot]when you are in pct, you are going to get a major spike in cortisol... cortisol is termed the "gains killer" for a reason... it will put you into a catabolic state which will not allow you to build muscle and at the same time will eat it away, on top of the fact you will also get unwanted fat gain... so you will lose muscle and gain fat that you had just busted your ass an entire cycle for... GW and MK prevent the rise in cortisol... not only that but they keep you performing at a level you were while on cycle being the ultimate performance enhancers they are... on top of the fact that mk2866 is the ultimate for healing and recovery, which is imperative in pct as well as keeping strength up to a very high level... gw will also treat cholesterol and blood pressure, which are definitely things that need addressed in pct as well…Organ ST plays a pivotal role in a post-cycle therapy (PCT). There’s a strong misconception that the role of a PCT is simply to restart the natural testosterone production that was shut down from the steroid cycle. While this is true, there are a lot of the other issues that the body has to deal with during a PCT: hormone fluctuations, high liver enzymes, increased blood pressure, pressure on the kidneys and endocrine system, high stress and cortisol levels, the list goes on...Organ ST helps address all of these problems and helps you recover in a timely manner. The quicker you recover, the less likelihood of any long-term problems occurring, and the more likely that all gains you make during your cycle are retained.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]




clomid 50/50/50/25//25/25
nolva 40/40/40/20/20/20
aromasin 12.5 mg eod [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]ORGAN ST https://www.dganutrition.com/cycle-support/organ-st
mk-2866 25 mg day (ONLY 4 WEEKS)
gw-501516 20 mg day[/FONT]

 

[birchmanjr1310]

way too much on the orals bro, way too much... let me just fix this entirely for you...

1-12 sust 500 mg week
1-14 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
1-6 tbol 60 mg day
1-6 dga organ st https://www.dganutrition.com/product/organ-st/
9-14 anavar 60 mg day
9-14 dga organ st https://www.dganutrition.com/product/organ-st/
11-14 post ct https://www.dganutrition.com/product/post-ct

pct 15-20

[FONT=&quot]when you are in pct, you are going to get a major spike in cortisol... cortisol is termed the "gains killer" for a reason... it will put you into a catabolic state which will not allow you to build muscle and at the same time will eat it away, on top of the fact you will also get unwanted fat gain... so you will lose muscle and gain fat that you had just busted your ass an entire cycle for... GW and MK prevent the rise in cortisol... not only that but they keep you performing at a level you were while on cycle being the ultimate performance enhancers they are... on top of the fact that mk2866 is the ultimate for healing and recovery, which is imperative in pct as well as keeping strength up to a very high level... gw will also treat cholesterol and blood pressure, which are definitely things that need addressed in pct as well…Organ ST plays a pivotal role in a post-cycle therapy (PCT). There’s a strong misconception that the role of a PCT is simply to restart the natural testosterone production that was shut down from the steroid cycle. While this is true, there are a lot of the other issues that the body has to deal with during a PCT: hormone fluctuations, high liver enzymes, increased blood pressure, pressure on the kidneys and endocrine system, high stress and cortisol levels, the list goes on...Organ ST helps address all of these problems and helps you recover in a timely manner. The quicker you recover, the less likelihood of any long-term problems occurring, and the more likely that all gains you make during your cycle are retained.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]




clomid 50/50/50/25//25/25
nolva 40/40/40/20/20/20
aromasin 12.5 mg eod [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]ORGAN ST https://www.dganutrition.com/cycle-support/organ-st
mk-2866 25 mg day (ONLY 4 WEEKS)
gw-501516 20 mg day[/FONT]

Love all the advice. However, slightly confused... You said I was way too high on the orals but you suggested a higher dose of Tbol and a higher/longer dose of anavar?

I will address all the "other" issues with the the cycle with some peptides.

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[dylangemelli]

Love all the advice. However, slightly confused... You said I was way too high on the orals but you suggested a higher dose of Tbol and a higher/longer dose of anavar?

I will address all the "other" issues with the the cycle with some peptides.

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it was the way you had the orals so close together without enough rest period in between them that i was referencing...

 

[MasonicBodybuilder]

Looks much better. I like some time between orals too. Extremely harsh on the liver so the break in between is key. N2Guard will be essential on this cycle and throughout PCT.

 

[birchmanjr1310]

it was the way you had the orals so close together without enough rest period in between them that i was referencing...

Awesome. I switched up. Upped the TBOL and shortened the time. Then I'll run the anavar later.

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[dylangemelli]

Awesome. I switched up. Upped the TBOL and shortened the time. Then I'll run the anavar later.

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very very wise brother... your liver, kidneys, cholesterol and blood pressure will ALL thank you!