Cycle Time? What with what for mass bulk

[meathead250]

Hey guys, i know there's countless thread on cycle help so i hope you guys will be helpful and lending a hand to me with my questions. I been on this site for several months just reading and gaining info on alot of things i don't know yet.

I wouldent consider myself to be a total noob on roids but after reading alot of thread there is tons i don't know and roids i haven't even heard of. Alot of my confusion comes from your guys's abbreviations.. If someone would make a thread on that it would also be very helpful =)

This will be my 4th cycle. With this cycle im looking to go with a bigger/heavier cycle to pack on the weight/muscle. My previous cycles were not anything big.

#1) Test-E 300mg/EW for 8W
#2) Sust 400mg/EW for 6W
#3) Test-E 400mg/EW for 8W
Tri-Tren 300mg/EW for 8W

The first two cycles i saw muscle gain but wasn't anything dramatic, Weight increased and i liked the way i looked but i just felt like it was a similar gains to OTC pro hormones however it was a safe introduction to roids for me and im happy i did it that way.

My third cycle i decided to try to monster and add tren. I was more talked into it then i wanted to do it, i wasn't sure if i was ready for it but in the end i was very glad i did. My muscle gains went through the roof. Even coming off of it i did not lose much muscle strength which i liked alot.

As you can tell i like moving heavy weight around rather then being cut and having a nice physique. V cut is plenty good for me, i dont need to be shreded and have a 6pack.

Now that you have some background this is what im having trouble deciding on what to run next.

Im only going to list the roids im interest in stacking and hoping you guys can help me with the proper dosing. Or give me a guide for a better stack.

Test-E
Tren
Deca or Dbol

Im still researching EQ bold, ill be honest im not familiar with that roid at all but i see alot of ppl running it in there cycle

Stats
Age:21
Height: 6'0
Weight: 223
BF%: Around 12-15
Years Lifting: 7

Last cycle was 6 months ago. Looking to state this one around sept-oct

Thanks for all your help

 

[dylangemelli]

you have run 4 cycles in the past, which have all been ran incorrectly and your only 21?? man, you just have no business running cycles at such a young age... you have no idea what your doing to your body but i assure you that your not going to be happy later in life man... you need to focus on other things and not steroids...

 

[meathead250]

you have run 4 cycles in the past, which have all been ran incorrectly and your only 21?? man, you just have no business running cycles at such a young age... you have no idea what your doing to your body but i assure you that your not going to be happy later in life man... you need to focus on other things and not steroids...

Thank you for helping with all my questions, it was greatly appreciated...

What was incorrect about them? I clearly stated i dint know much, how about you try explaining this better so ppl can understand more.


Anyone else have some advise.

 

[training700]

How old were you when you started? Any reason/goal trying for with your cycle?
Test e week 1-12 500mg
Dbol week 1-4 25mg
Tren week 1-8 3-400mg

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[meathead250]

How old were you when you started? Any reason/goal trying for with your cycle?
Test e week 1-12 500mg
Dbol week 1-4 25mg
Tren week 1-8 3-400mg

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Thank you for the advice sir!

My first cycle ill admit i was 19. Why? Well i got hooked up with a correctional officer job at 19. Lets face it no one at 19 is a monster. Only weapon they give you to protect yourself is OC spray. So i wanted to bulk up to atleast feel somewhat confident while working.

It was only a small cycle of test. I dint think it was anything major/bad for my body.

What was wrong about my previous cycles? The dosing im assuming?

 

[Nelson Montana]

I never understood running test with with sus. After a week, it's the same thing.

 

[training700]

Just how young you started and that at your age starting a 4th cycle. But a 4th cycle isn't too crazy from when started, so seems your taking time between. Run strong pct and have everything on hand before start etc. Get many sides from tren? I would just stay away from deca hard recover, bloat etc. If want run it then at least use shorter ester version npp. Don't run tren with deca/npp together as a general rule.
The dosages and length is on low end which is good since started so young.

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[meathead250]

I never understood running test with with sus. After a week, it's the same thing.

I dint run test and sust together, my first cycle was just test-e and my second cycle was just sust lol.

 

[meathead250]

Just how young you started and that at your age starting a 4th cycle. But a 4th cycle isn't too crazy from when started, so seems your taking time between. Run strong pct and have everything on hand before start etc. Get many sides from tren? I would just stay away from deca hard recover, bloat etc. If want run it then at least use shorter ester version npp. Don't run tren with deca/npp together as a general rule.
The dosages and length is on low end which is good since started so young.

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Ohhhhhh ok gotcha, i thought he was saying i was dosing it wrong causing major harm to my body but im assuming he just ment that starting at a young age long term will hurt it. Thanks again man its nice to get info from a person who takes the time to explain it.

Tren sides? Umm.. other then its very painful i honestly dint notice any, mayb because i wasent sure what i was looking for. I def sweat in a instant once i did anything physical. I dint have trouble falling asleep at all. I dint get the "tren cough" Only thing that i did get was bad acne on my back which im still sorta dealing with. Testical shrinkage which went back to normal now. I guess just the average side effects. Nothing major cuz like you said i dosed really low.

Whats the reasoning behind only running dbol for 4 weeks?

 

[meathead250]

Bump

 

[BEAST420]

im new to aas (so guys correct me if wrong) but since ur young maybe dont do anything crazy nd simply do a 12 week test cycle and kick start with dbol. im not sure how bad dbol is and if it compares to decca or tren but i know its ment for mass and i know you notice results fast

 

[meathead250]

i hear methadone has bad sides tho? Like i said havent looked into that one much

 

[Jigga14]

Okay so you should definately research the crap out of PCT and support supps on this site before you embark on another cycle. Since you don't care about getting shredded i'd drop the Tren and use it for another cycle. Your next cycle you should frontload with Dbol. I'll lay out a suggestion.

1-4 Dbol 30 mgs ED
1-12 Test E 400 mgs EW
1-4 Needtoguard (needtobuildmuscle.com)
9-12 Hcgenerate (needtobuildmuscle.com)
Aromasin on hand for gyno flairups and esto conversion (greatwhitepeptides.com)

PCT start 2 weeks after your last pin
Post cycle/ Unleashed combo (needtobuildmuscle.com)
forma stanzol 10 pumps ED (mrsupps.com)
could add clomid as well..

Do some more reasearch about this cycle tho. Using the Test E for 12 weeks will greatly benefit your cycle and help solidify the gains you get on dbol. Eat like a monster and train even harder, the dbol will give you intense hunger.

Hope this helps!

 

[anonymity]

i hear methadone has bad sides tho? Like i said havent looked into that one much

What does an opioid have to do with anything?

 

[meathead250]

Okay so you should definately research the crap out of PCT and support supps on this site before you embark on another cycle. Since you don't care about getting shredded i'd drop the Tren and use it for another cycle. Your next cycle you should frontload with Dbol. I'll lay out a suggestion.

1-4 Dbol 30 mgs ED
1-12 Test E 400 mgs EW
1-4 Needtoguard (needtobuildmuscle.com)
9-12 Hcgenerate (needtobuildmuscle.com)
Aromasin on hand for gyno flairups and esto conversion (greatwhitepeptides.com)

PCT start 2 weeks after your last pin
Post cycle/ Unleashed combo (needtobuildmuscle.com)
forma stanzol 10 pumps ED (mrsupps.com)
could add clomid as well..

Do some more reasearch about this cycle tho. Using the Test E for 12 weeks will greatly benefit your cycle and help solidify the gains you get on dbol. Eat like a monster and train even harder, the dbol will give you intense hunger.

Hope this helps!

Helped alot sir thank you!

I was actually thinking about dropping the tren for the same reason you just stated but i felt amazing in the gym when i was on it last time and the harder V cut look was nice.. Still up in the air on that.

I ran unleashed and post cycle for my PCT last time, along with stanzol. But to be honest i dint feel like the stanzol did anything, i dint have any signs of gyno but idk wondering if anyone else felt that way?

Ill def get some of the n2guard and HCG, never took those before but i was going to run the HCG this time around. Just dint know when to start it in.

I like your suggestion alot, think thats what im going to go with.