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cycle results 2 different cycles

Photo one is after 12 weeks Test Cyp 600Mg per week
190 Lbs
then 3 months off

Photo two is after 8 weeks of 300Mg Sustanon,300Mg EQ, 100 Mg Tren Hex per week
206 Lbs

Very noticeable difference and without HUGE quantities of AAS.

Keep in mind I am 49 & 6'0" and have been working out hard for 4 years and was just stuck. Just couldn't get weights any higher.

I work muscle groups for 1 hour 12,10,8 to failure and then 1/2 hour cardio and that is 4x a week minimum different group each time i.e. abs,arms,legs,chest.

I am also looking for more definition and better abs. My diet is very good 5-6 meals a day 300-400 grams protein & enough carbs to balance whole wheat bread, brown rice, sweet potato ect and minimal fats except ex virgin olive oil.

If I eat more it turns right into belly & lower back fat. I want leaner am about 14% and trainer at gym claims that is too low ?? huh

I have never been able to add any muscle my whole life. Just genetics BUT I have been getting way more compliments at the pool since the recent cycle.

I am pretty content BUT I also think improvement can be made and I thank you for the input both positive & negative.
 
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Srry bro but u should of got a solid base before taking AAS at all , not being a dick , I've just learned that if ur diet and routines aren't in check steroids are a waste of time
 
Gotta eat while on. Feed that shit. While ''on'', your body is so efficient at building muscle and putting all nutrients to the good places. How tall are you?
 
There is a definite difference in your body comp. Second pic I see more definition and more vascularity. Keep working bro. I do have to say that upping your cals as mentioned above will really help build more muscle mass.

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But u guys think he was ready for tren ? Coulda saved those and got huge

No I don't think that. However when people post pics of themselves I look for the positives. I do think with a little more foundation results would have been greater. But you can tell a difference between the two pics.

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Yeah ur right bro , it def is a big change between the 2 , just sucks when people use steroids too early
We have you trained up Steve. You know what you are talking about and its great to see you use the knowledge people like zed and others have taught you here. Just always remember bro we are here to motivate each other. It wasn't your knowledge here that was in question at all. Just your delivery. Op you really need to look at your diet if you want to grow. If you are looking to just be lean you are doing great.


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Yeh ur totally right man, and without Ef and people like u radar,GJ and zed showing me the ropes I wouldn't know nothing at all!sometimes I just don't think before I speak lol,
 
i bet if you shaved for your pics we would be able to see better definition.

hard to see very much with all that hair.. i'm a hairy dude too and its a pain but gotta trim that body hair so we can see those muscles.

good improvement. not everyone has good genetics but i promise you if you improve your workouts and diet you will get better results every cycle. your first cycle i dunno what you looked like originally but you definately could of built a better base first, that would of helped you on cycle take things to another level. may want to run some bloods after pct and post them up so we can see if there is something wrong that might be preventing you from building natty mass.
 
Yeah ur right bro , it def is a big change between the 2 , just sucks when people use steroids too early

they only hurt themselves.. if you spend your entire cycle conditioning the muscles instead of ripping them up and growing them it is just a waste of gear.

you can tell in the OP's pics the first cycle he ran the muscles weren't conditioned, then the 2nd go around he was able to grow finally so essentially the first cycle was wasted.
 
Well, I hope I didn't come off as a dick, then. There is an obvious difference between the two pictures. Especially in the chest. But nothing Helladrol didn't do for me. But maybe Helladrol is underrated. And I'm loving Beastdrol, guys. Except last night it woke me up, my back was fucking cramping/pumping all up my spine? Never felt that before, even on a 1-test/4-ad stack back years ago.
 
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Yeah ur right bro , it def is a big change between the 2 , just sucks when people use steroids too early

If it was too early well I didn't in my 20's or 30's and... I waited till I was 48, how much longer should I have waited?

I was stuck at where I was after spending 4 years of hard effort.. I needed to get beyond the wall I was against because I was just about to say the hell with it if I am not getting any more results.

Trust me I got results that I am quite happy with... and that is quite important to me.

I also wanted to share what I think is the dramatic difference that Tren Hex brings to the table at a fairly sane dosage on just 100mg a week.

Sides are a bit annoying but the results make it worth it, but I can't imagine Tren more than once a year at most.
 
That's cool man , well if you've been working hard , that's all that matters .. Plus you said ur going for the lean look , so ur doing great, I always assume everyone wants the bulk look cause that's what I strive for
 
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