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Older Big J
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throw in some nandralone...
if he can add 400-600mgs of nandralone it would really help him out...
if he can add 400-600mgs of nandralone it would really help him out...
To be honest I dont see a need for GH or slin unless you are high end competitor. If your friend is just looking for lean mass, just run some gear. I dont see a point in using both enth and sust, just pick a test and run with it. EQ and tren make great additions for lean mass and make sure to run anastrozole with it(the test) to keep bloat off and keep gyno away. Clomid (preferably with the anastrozole) post cycle as well.
pgerardone
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Yes insulin should be used but he should start with 3iu's and work up to ten 2X a day over time. Everyone reacts differently to insulin so always start low. If it was me I would not use sust and enth together. Use one or the other and add a strong oral. GH works best in the presance of high androgens. D-bol or anadrol. He also may consider a little t3 at 12.5-25mcgs a day to go along with the gh and insulin. If he is doing 5iu's a day split the shots into 2X a day. I am sure you will get many other suggestions but I figured I would start you out.
Combine what zyg and OlderBigJ said and you'll have a nice cycle!
Test 1200 mg Eq 800 mg Week 1 600 & 400 mg wk 2-10
Deca 600 MG wk 1-10
Fina 75mg/day week 6-12
Winny 50 mg/day week 6-12
Clomid 3-4 days after last fina shot!!
God I love this cycle!
Trust me, with the pumps off fina his skin will be more than tight enough!!!
PS cycle can get REAL EXPENSIVE when you throw in GH
Test 1200 mg Eq 800 mg Week 1 600 & 400 mg wk 2-10
Deca 600 MG wk 1-10
Fina 75mg/day week 6-12
Winny 50 mg/day week 6-12
Clomid 3-4 days after last fina shot!!
God I love this cycle!
Trust me, with the pumps off fina his skin will be more than tight enough!!!
PS cycle can get REAL EXPENSIVE when you throw in GH
ultragainz
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ok gh for 12 weeks is good...take 4-6ius 5 days on 2 days off....or take gh like this first 4 weeks hit 4ius the next 4 weeks hit 6ius the last 4 weeks hit 8ius...ask "ironmaster" he knows his gh good.....some slin is good to.....i take it at 3 weeks on 1 week off....so it ends at week 11....8-12ius is good....on workout days.....some anavar would be good in there with some test and so on....not sure if this is what you needed.....
ultragainz
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ok fina is good he can hit it for 6-8 weeks take it everyday.....add some eq in too wtih some test.....eq at 400-500mgs is good...if this is his first cycle he can just take 400mgs he can front load the eq for the first 2 weeks...
ultragainz
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heres a good cycle-----
wks---eq---test-----fina----gh
1------600--500--------------5iu
2------600--500--------------5iu
3------600--500-----1cced--5iu
4------400--500-----1cced--5iu
5------400--500-----1cced--5iu
6------400--500-----1cced--5iu
7------400--500-----1cced--5iu
8------400--500-----1cced--5iu
9------400--500-----1cced--5iu
10-----400-----------1cced--5iu
11-----400--------------------5iu
12-----400--------------------5iu
you can just hit 6 weeks of fina then start theb fina on week 5 around there is fine
wks---eq---test-----fina----gh
1------600--500--------------5iu
2------600--500--------------5iu
3------600--500-----1cced--5iu
4------400--500-----1cced--5iu
5------400--500-----1cced--5iu
6------400--500-----1cced--5iu
7------400--500-----1cced--5iu
8------400--500-----1cced--5iu
9------400--500-----1cced--5iu
10-----400-----------1cced--5iu
11-----400--------------------5iu
12-----400--------------------5iu
you can just hit 6 weeks of fina then start theb fina on week 5 around there is fine
ultragainz
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thanks bro.....you can also end the cycle with fina...
thanks... sent ya karma 
xmoulton508x
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As far as the GH ..... first off GH is a big gamble because the side effects are irreversible, but I won't get into all that and lecture.
We'll look at it this way
Pro's
1. Increased Protein synthesis due to enlarged muscle cells and an increase in number of cells
2.It allows fat to more readily be burned as energy
3.It strengthens connective tissue
4. The rejuvination like properties which he wants
Con's
1.If he's looking for the maximum effect from the GH , then the body needs more thyroid hormones, insulin, corticosteroids, gonadotropins, estrogens and androgens, in addition to the intake of the GH. This is just to get the maximum anabolic effect.
2.In a few rare cases the body produces antibodies to exogenous GH making it uneffective
3. It's recommended that 03 IU's are taken per pound of bodyweight , which is 60 IU a week for a 200 lbs. person. Which should be divided into 3 shots of 20IU's .......That's alot of shots and alot of $$$
Ultimately GH is a very complicated substance and it's up to him ....but I'd recommend doing some serious research on GH before taking it.
I hope I helped a little bit ...Good luck!
We'll look at it this way
Pro's
1. Increased Protein synthesis due to enlarged muscle cells and an increase in number of cells
2.It allows fat to more readily be burned as energy
3.It strengthens connective tissue
4. The rejuvination like properties which he wants
Con's
1.If he's looking for the maximum effect from the GH , then the body needs more thyroid hormones, insulin, corticosteroids, gonadotropins, estrogens and androgens, in addition to the intake of the GH. This is just to get the maximum anabolic effect.
2.In a few rare cases the body produces antibodies to exogenous GH making it uneffective
3. It's recommended that 03 IU's are taken per pound of bodyweight , which is 60 IU a week for a 200 lbs. person. Which should be divided into 3 shots of 20IU's .......That's alot of shots and alot of $$$
Ultimately GH is a very complicated substance and it's up to him ....but I'd recommend doing some serious research on GH before taking it.
I hope I helped a little bit ...Good luck!
xmoulton508x
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Sorry correction 0.3 IU's of GH per lbs. And also if he is determined on doing the GH you might want to think about just taking the GH at the beginning of the month, since your body naturally releases GH in spurts.
xmoulton508x
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Oh crap ....what the hell was i doing. I must be daydreaming.
Sorry supergirl . maybe someone else can find it useful
Sorry supergirl . maybe someone else can find it useful
GAINSEEKER
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Zyglamail said:
I'll bump to this.....I am looking into GH but the cost I feel really isn't worth it unless you are reaching for every last inch ???
BUT YOU SAID HE WANTS IT SO THAT'S THAT.
But insulin on the other hand has got my attention.
I just started working as a warehouse manager for a diabetic warehouse and am learning so much about it I'm bringing it in my cycles for a while to try.. 2 weeks on and 2 off...
As for the test why did he want to run the two types of test ???
And what are your thoughts on adding EQ into the cycle.
Like 500mg/week for 10 weeks ??
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