Cycle Length?

[MILLENNIUM]

Hey guys I am going to be running a cycle of sust 250 and anavar 30-40mg e/d .25 Arimidex throughout and pct 25mg nolva for 3wks. My question is if I have 14 sus 250 readyjects would you run 1 e/w for 12 wks or shorten the cycle and run one every 5 days for 8-10wks. I have heard with sus it is better to hit it every 5 days to help keep blood levels more stable. What do you think?

 

[Maxgain]

I dont see the point in doing a cycle unless you go 4-500 mgs a week the results are an awful lot better. Once a week is fine but i would do 500mgs

 

[MILLENNIUM]

For such an opinionated board... No other comments??

 

[Mr.X]

Hey guys I am going to be running a cycle of sust 250 and anavar 30-40mg e/d .25 Arimidex throughout and pct 25mg nolva for 3wks. My question is if I have 14 sus 250 readyjects would you run 1 e/w for 12 wks or shorten the cycle and run one every 5 days for 8-10wks. I have heard with sus it is better to hit it every 5 days to help keep blood levels more stable. What do you think?

Tell me about your cycle experience and stats, goals etc... 250mgs of sust/wk is not going to be a major cycle.

 

[MILLENNIUM]

234lbs 6'0" 31yrs. 19%BF and going down. Only one cycle before this Avavar/Winny broke my back a yr and 1/2 ago and lost all strength in my calves taking AAS to regain strength. Don't wan't to put on size really, That's why I am stacking with Var. I got great results from the winny var cycle but everyone keeps saying run it with test run it with test, so I am going to and see what happens. I have always worked out and played sports, always been in pretty good shape and always natural till after my accident. Recovery is hard as hell lemme tell ya, but I make progress each day.

 

[MILLENNIUM]

Tell me about your cycle experience and stats, goals etc... 250mgs of sust/wk is not going to be a major cycle.

X?

 

[BigCracker]

If I were you I'd do one every 4 days. That's almost 500mgs/week. Or just shoot one every Sunday and Thursday???

 

[MILLENNIUM]

That's pretty close to every 5 days. I have to see if I have enough. Would you reccomend going longer with less or shorter with more. Keep in mind this is only my 2nd cycle and I am stacking with Anavar.

 

[Maxgain]

Get more then if you are going to cycle do it properly ie 4-500mgs a week and at such doses weekly injections are fine for steady levels

 

[swordfish151]

Hey guys I am going to be running a cycle of sust 250 and anavar 30-40mg e/d .25 Arimidex throughout and pct 25mg nolva for 3wks. My question is if I have 14 sus 250 readyjects would you run 1 e/w for 12 wks or shorten the cycle and run one every 5 days for 8-10wks. I have heard with sus it is better to hit it every 5 days to help keep blood levels more stable. What do you think?

My first cycle was 250mgs of sust every sunday with 20mgs of dbol...that being said, i had good gains doing this cycle...being that its your 2nd cycle you wouldnt go wrong with 250mgs...

 

[MILLENNIUM]

My first cycle was 250mgs of sust every sunday with 20mgs of dbol...that being said, i had good gains doing this cycle...being that its your 2nd cycle you wouldnt go wrong with 250mgs...

So you think this is good how it stands? I agree that I don't need more sust necessarily. I just read in a few places that because of the esters used in sus injections every 5 days keeps blood level more steady. I have many friends that get great gains off of 250mg sust /wk with winny dbol or anavar. Have you heard of the blood level theory for sust every 5 days?

 

[swordfish151]

So you think this is good how it stands? I agree that I don't need more sust necessarily. I just read in a few places that because of the esters used in sus injections every 5 days keeps blood level more steady. I have many friends that get great gains off of 250mg sust /wk with winny dbol or anavar. Have you heard of the blood level theory for sust every 5 days?

Actually the blood level theory is not 5 days, but EOD for sust...to take advantage of the prop...personally i liked doing it 250mgs a week..i didnt have bad sides at all..and yeah my levels where all out of wack, but like i said i didnt get any sides from it...ate, trained and rested and grew off of 250mgs a week

 

[MILLENNIUM]

Actually the blood level theory is not 5 days, but EOD for sust...to take advantage of the prop...personally i liked doing it 250mgs a week..i didnt have bad sides at all..and yeah my levels where all out of wack, but like i said i didnt get any sides from it...ate, trained and rested and grew off of 250mgs a week

Hmmmm... So you don't think their is any advantage to the every 5 day theory? That being the case Then I just run my original cycle as planned.. Thanks

 

[ksbst9mm]

Hmmmm... So you don't think their is any advantage to the every 5 day theory? That being the case Then I just run my original cycle as planned.. Thanks

i would do one shot a week. Thats what i have done in the past and it worked well for me.

ksbst9mm

 

[galaxy]

Back in the day when all i could afford was sustas i would do one every 5th day and i had great results. I do it e5d as you said. Youll love it with the var. Looks good to me.

 

[Mr.X]

234lbs 6'0" 31yrs. 19%BF and going down. Only one cycle before this Avavar/Winny broke my back a yr and 1/2 ago and lost all strength in my calves taking AAS to regain strength. Don't wan't to put on size really, That's why I am stacking with Var. I got great results from the winny var cycle but everyone keeps saying run it with test run it with test, so I am going to and see what happens. I have always worked out and played sports, always been in pretty good shape and always natural till after my accident. Recovery is hard as hell lemme tell ya, but I make progress each day.

Although I like your choice of adding sust to your cycle, I disagree at you doing the cycle with 19% bodyfat. I would suggest you wait until you're well below 15% bf before considering a cycle.

Overall, you would do well with just a sust + arimidex cycle. You don't need the anavar.

 

[MILLENNIUM]

Although I like your choice of adding sust to your cycle, I disagree at you doing the cycle with 19% bodyfat. I would suggest you wait until you're well below 15% bf before considering a cycle.

Overall, you would do well with just a sust + arimidex cycle. You don't need the anavar.

X- you were the one that recommended this cycle to me. .25mg e/d Amiridex 250mg sust e/w and 40mg Var e/d Nolva 40mg e/d week1 pct and 20mg e/d for 2 more weeks. Starting PCT 2 weeks after last shot of sust. Are you changing your recommendation here??

 

[immortalis]

I usually like to do my injections every 5 days or so. Right now I inject every Sat and Tuesday.

I definitely recommend doing around 500mgs per week, anywhere from 8-12 weeks. Closer to 12 if you have the gear for it.

 

[HOG]

X made an interesting point regarding bf... maybe spend a few weeks cutting back the bf. I think being in better cardiovascular shape enables one to train harder for the cycle, get the most out of it. I've used plenty of sust (I like it) and I need to use 250 every 3 days with deca. 6 weeks is long enough, too. Maybe most importantly you should see how much you need. I was looking at the A-bomb posts, and I have heard horror stories about some guys using Anadrol - yet I used it many times at the beginning of cycles to kick things off (ramp up to 3 50mg tabs oxymeth/day, 2 weeks) I know it's a tired statement, but everyone reacts more or less to a drug dosage. There are some lucky individuals who require much less than others for similar results!

 

[galaxy]

I could care less about your body fat. In my experience people are gonna do things one way or the other so I just try and give the best advice i can. Hell if i wanted to do things the hard way i wouldnt you drugs period.lol........I have no problem with that cycle. You'll drop bodyfat as youll gain more muscle and muscle helps burn fat. In the long run youll be better off. Those doses aint shit. Youll be fine. And your my age so i would throw in the var. But thats just me.

 

[MILLENNIUM]

X made an interesting point regarding bf... maybe spend a few weeks cutting back the bf. I think being in better cardiovascular shape enables one to train harder for the cycle, get the most out of it. I've used plenty of sust (I like it) and I need to use 250 every 3 days with deca. 6 weeks is long enough, too. Maybe most importantly you should see how much you need. I was looking at the A-bomb posts, and I have heard horror stories about some guys using Anadrol - yet I used it many times at the beginning of cycles to kick things off (ramp up to 3 50mg tabs oxymeth/day, 2 weeks) I know it's a tired statement, but everyone reacts more or less to a drug dosage. There are some lucky individuals who require much less than others for similar results!

I agree I am not going to use more than 250mg of sust every 5 days, and would never take Anadrol even if you paid me. I believe it is a nasty harsh drug not worth the results it gives. I am stacking this sust cycle with 30-40mg Anavar e/d. As far as cutting down the bodyfat I am working on it. I have dropped 3% in 3weeks and lost 7lbs just from diet and cardio. I am waiting 2 more weeks to begin the cycle. I will aslo be dieting throughout too as I don't want to add any bulk. I am already 6'0" 230lbs

 

[HOG]

Sounds like you have a good plan, Millenium. I will likely never compete, and I have used everything from Oxymeth to tren to Omna's over the years. For me, it's always been tough to justify a cycle without doing so for growth...