cycle I am on, but more importantly what I am taking with it

[stevesmi]

^^^ read the whole post.

 

[zwhit]

winstrol supposedly helps control prolactin, too. And then you're running caber along with it. I see no point in running masteron at 100mg/week. It's a waste. But that's just my opinion.

 

[Xray123]

^^^ to both of you

if you stack test you would need an AI the whole way but you would also need to stretch out your pct a bit more. the more juice you run the longer recovery could be.

Could I just continue forma for the whole 12 weeks?

Or should I use the nolva for 10-12 weeks then back to forma for pct? Forma recommends only 10 weeks.

 

[stevesmi]

Could I just continue forma for the whole 12 weeks?

Or should I use the nolva for 10-12 weeks then back to forma for pct? Forma recommends only 10 weeks.

see this is exactly why i tell people to leave out test in a tren cycle. you start getting into estrogen concerns and it complicates things.

i wouldn't run nolva under any circumstance first off. 2nd off as long as you are running test you will need to run an AI. which AI you choose is up to you.

 

[zwhit]

^^^ read the whole post.

I read the whole post. Unless youit edited it, it still isn't the only way to run tren.

You deleted my post for disagreeing with you? If you're going to lay this out as the "blueprint" for running tren it better not have anything controversial in it. Isn't intelligent discussion what this place is all about anyway? I don't appreciate you deleting my posts when I haven't broken any rules.

 

[stevesmi]

winstrol supposedly helps control prolactin, too. And then you're running caber along with it. I see no point in running masteron at 100mg/week. It's a waste. But that's just my opinion.

correct but notice I am running very low doses of caber. prolactin is a whole nother debate as to why men have it. i have my own theories but thats for another day. the bottom line is men do not need prolactin, however it doesn't mean we should bomb it to 0 and run caber and crazy dosages. less is better.. this is why i prefer to run caber at a low dose and if i have some masteron laying around throw in a light dose of that too.

i think you are harping too much on that though. you don't need the masteron or winny or dbol. i just chose to throw them in to see what would happen full disclosure. but i wanted to post exactly what i did this cycle. doesn't mean i am advocating to run it this way. really what should be focused on is the ancillaries and pct used.

 

[stevesmi]

I read the whole post. Unless youit edited it, it still isn't the only way to run tren.

You deleted my post for disagreeing with you? If you're going to lay this out as the "blueprint" for running tren it better not have anything controversial in it. Isn't intelligent discussion what this place is all about anyway? I don't appreciate you deleting my posts when I haven't broken any rules.

none of your posts were deleted that i know of. I responded to every single one of your questions/concerns.

 

[Xray123]

see this is exactly why i tell people to leave out test in a tren cycle. you start getting into estrogen concerns and it complicates things.

i wouldn't run nolva under any circumstance first off. 2nd off as long as you are running test you will need to run an AI. which AI you choose is up to you.

Would it be worth while using test as well?

What gains would you expect from a tren only cycle if you have training and diet spot on?

 

[stevesmi]

Would it be worth while using test as well?

What gains would you expect from a tren only cycle if you have training and diet spot on?

depends on what your goals are..

you could stack var with tren if you want strength gains.

if you want mass then dbol/tren is good or test/tren

just depends on your goals.

i would say if you have everything spot on you should easily hit PR's on tren

 

[zwhit]

none of your posts were deleted that i know of. I responded to every single one of your questions/concerns.

Because you put it back, along with editing post #11. That's ok, though, I'm fine as long as it's put back.