Cycle Help

[clean11]

Sup guys. A little about myself, I'm 187lbs at 10% bf, Been training 3 years. Right now I'm 40 days into my first cycle.
Week 1 test p 100mg eod
Week 2 test p 100mg eod
Week 3 test p 100mg eod dbol 50mg ed
Week 4 test e 250mg e3d dbol 50mg ed
Week 5 test e 250mg e3d dbol 50mg ed
Week 6 test e 250mg e3d dbol 50mg ed
Week 7 test e 250mg e3d dbol 50mg ed
Week 8 test e 250mg e3d dbol 50mg ed
Week 9 test e 250mg e3d dbol 50mg ed
Week 10 test e 250mg e3d dbol 50mg ed
Week 11 test e 250mg e3d dbol 50mg ed
Week 12 test e 250mg e3d dbol 50mg ed
Week 13 test e 250mg e3d dbol 50mg ed
Adex .5mg eod

I'm considering after this cycle, just cruising for 4wks on 250mg test e, then starting a new cycle with tren. My idea for the cycle is something like 50mg tren eod with test p 100mg eod and caber/adex. Would I be able to up the tren to 75 mid cycle if I don't get bad sides? Also what else should I include in the second cycle, and how long to run it, and what to do afterwards? And what should I be running besides test during a cruise? Maybe a SARM?

Thanks for your help everyone

 

[bonacris]

Thats fucking stupid. Your not giving your body time to recover at all.. and you want to do tren on a second cycle.

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[clean11]

Thats fucking stupid. Your not giving your body time to recover at all.. and you want to do tren on a second cycle.

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What would you recommend then? Thanks for the reply

 

[bonacris]

I suggest doing your 13 week cycle as planned.. the doing a thorough PCT for 6 weeks and then taking 19weeks off to let your body recover

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[joeblow12345]

Bro your jumping the gun way too early here and your off to an ass backwards start already. The test e needs to be ran from day one in order to allow it to build in your system. This is your first cycle and your already looking into tren and cruising? Not smart. Get a couple years experience with the juice before you decide if cruising is for you or not. Once you make that transition then there's no going back. Just take it slow and go ce it time before making longterm decisions.

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[joonp]

Sup guys. A little about myself, I'm 187lbs at 10% bf, Been training 3 years. Right now I'm 40 days into my first cycle.
Week 1 test p 100mg eod
Week 2 test p 100mg eod
Week 3 test p 100mg eod dbol 50mg ed
Week 4 test e 250mg e3d dbol 50mg ed
Week 5 test e 250mg e3d dbol 50mg ed
Week 6 test e 250mg e3d dbol 50mg ed
Week 7 test e 250mg e3d dbol 50mg ed
Week 8 test e 250mg e3d dbol 50mg ed
Week 9 test e 250mg e3d dbol 50mg ed
Week 10 test e 250mg e3d dbol 50mg ed
Week 11 test e 250mg e3d dbol 50mg ed
Week 12 test e 250mg e3d dbol 50mg ed
Week 13 test e 250mg e3d dbol 50mg ed
Adex .5mg eod

I'm considering after this cycle, just cruising for 4wks on 250mg test e, then starting a new cycle with tren. My idea for the cycle is something like 50mg tren eod with test p 100mg eod and caber/adex. Would I be able to up the tren to 75 mid cycle if I don't get bad sides? Also what else should I include in the second cycle, and how long to run it, and what to do afterwards? And what should I be running besides test during a cruise? Maybe a SARM?

Thanks for your help everyone

Yea i would run the test e from week one drop the test p and run the dbol for first 4-5 weeks to kick start. If u run an oral that long its gonna b hell on ur liver. What does ur pct look like?

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[clean11]

Thats fucking stupid. Your not giving your body time to recover at all.. and you want to do tren on a second cycle.

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The point wasn't for my body to recover, and what's wrong with tren second cycle?

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[clean11]

Yea i would run the test e from week one drop the test p and run the dbol for first 4-5 weeks to kick start. If u run an oral that long its gonna b hell on ur liver. What does ur pct look like?

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From what I've seen 6-8wks is pretty common with dbol. Maybe I'm wrong. And I wasn't going to pct, I was going to cruise on trt dose til next cycle, which is what I need advice on

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[clean11]

Bro your jumping the gun way too early here and your off to an ass backwards start already. The test e needs to be ran from day one in order to allow it to build in your system. This is your first cycle and your already looking into tren and cruising? Not smart. Get a couple years experience with the juice before you decide if cruising is for you or not. Once you make that transition then there's no going back. Just take it slow and go ce it time before making longterm decisions.

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Why would test e need to be ran from day one? The prop is already built up when I switch to test e. Seen it used this way alot..

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[bonacris]

Why would test e need to be ran from day one? The prop is already built up when I switch to test e. Seen it used this way alot..

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Dumbest post of the day

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[clean11]

Dumbest post of the day

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Why don't you get off your high horse and explain it to me then, instead of right from the bat coming out calling me fucking stupid goddamn

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[bonacris]

Why don't you get off your high horse and explain it to me then, instead of right from the bat coming out calling me fucking stupid goddamn

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Test e is long ester

Test p is short ester

If you start test p before starting test e its out of your system before test e has even started to be effective.

You will have done 4 weeks of test and the have to wait another 4 weeks for test e to kick in.

start both at the same time and after 4 weeks drop the test p and test e takes over

I'm giving you a hard time because you did absolutely no research because your cycle is a mess and you seem to have no clue what your doing.

Any little bit of researxh would tell you to start test p and test e at the same time

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[Shrine1]

Test e needs to be ran from day one because it takes two weeks to build up. Thats why PCT doesnt start till two weeks after last pin with longer esters like test e and test c

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[Shrine1]

be answered it

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[clean11]

Test e is long ester

Test p is short ester

If you start test p before starting test e its out of your system before test e has even started to be effective.

You will have done 4 weeks of test and the have to wait another 4 weeks for test e to kick in.

start both at the same time and after 4 weeks drop the test p and test e takes over

I'm giving you a hard time because you did absolutely no research because your cycle is a mess and you seem to have no clue what your doing.

Any little bit of researxh would tell you to start test p and test e at the same time

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Thanks, and sorry if im coming across as a dick im stuck in community service and havent eaten in four hours lol. And it did alot of research before starting my cycle, and multiple people told me to start with prop but now I feel like a fucking idiot for listening to them. So you're telling me that basically most of this cycle was a waste since my test is probably low now since e isnt built up?

I also have another vial of prop, should I start using that with the e right now until its built up?
EDIT: I'm at the end of week 5 so won't the test e be built up in a few days?
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[joonp]

One of the reasons u run as few differnt things iis to see what sides u will experience. So when u experience them u will know what it is that is causing it. If ur running three different compounds how will u know what it is. That way later as u get more experienced u can add more in and have a good idea what u r doin and how u will react. I am only giving u advice that many season vets have given me and ive seen give to many others. If ur gonna run an oral that long u better get a good liver support in my opinion i would ran test e from day one and uses the dbol to kick start til the e kicked in. If uve already started ur prop i would run that and save the e but its ur choice

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[clean11]

One of the reasons u run as few differnt things iis to see what sides u will experience. So when u experience them u will know what it is that is causing it. If ur running three different compounds how will u know what it is. That way later as u get more experienced u can add more in and have a good idea what u r doin and how u will react. I am only giving u advice that many season vets have given me and ive seen give to many others. If ur gonna run an oral that long u better get a good liver support in my opinion i would ran test e from day one and uses the dbol to kick start til the e kicked in. If uve already started ur prop i would run that and save the e but its ur choice

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Yeah, that's why I was only adding in tren next cycle, as I already know how test effects me (sensitive to estro had to run letro for 2wks to get rid of gyno, so I need to run adex from the start to prevent) So any sides I get I know will be from tren. For liver support I'm using Lindberg Milk thistle 3x ed and Animal Pak. And I'm at the end of week 5 so I already fucked myself over lol, I'm about 2 wks onto enanthate. I should have run test e from day 1.

 

[joeblow12345]

Its not a waste, you just didn't maximize your potential on this cycle. Its all about learning from your mistakes and improving. Thats also why I don't recommend tren yet. You haven't learned enough in one cycle to prepare you for the trouble tren can bring. You also need to realize that if you cruise you may not be able to return to a normal level again. For those of us that cruise that's fine, as I don't mind injecting myself the rest of my life. I also have almost a decade of consistent training under my belt and am committed to the gym. Can you make those same commitments? If not then do a pct and wait to make that decision until your sure.

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