Cycle help?

[Jefferyaron]

I'm 23 this will be my 4th cycle. I'm 5'8 180lbs 11%bf bench 275 squat 385 dead 405. I've ran all long Esther's and have been looking into andromix. I haven't ran any fast esters and was wondering if someone could help set an 8 week andromix cycle up for me? This site has been awesome I love the advice the constructive criticism I is awesome here and y'all have helped me out beyond belief!!!

 

[EZ_E]

I'm not a big fan of blends, I don't feel comfortable getting the same dose of all 3 compounds from shot to shot...

~EZ

 

[Jefferyaron]

That's a good point I've read the same opinion on a few logs def a note taken.

 

[goin on 4T]

I'm not a big fan of blends, I don't feel comfortable getting the same dose of all 3 compounds from shot to shot...

~EZ

Yep and some labs go light on the expensive powder and heavy on the cheap powders.



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[Jefferyaron]

Ah that's is a very good point!

 

[joeblow12345]

My advice is to forgo the mix and just run prop or a long ester. What are your goals for the cycle?


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[notjake11]

Yep and some labs go light on the expensive powder and heavy on the cheap powders.



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If the lab will cheat you on the blend, they will cheat you on the unblended as well.

 

[hulkamainia 119]

What's yo goals man?

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[Jefferyaron]

Really just to add a few lbs drop to 8-9% I know that's mainly diet and increase strength. Winny was horrible on my joints so that won't happen again Ive heard mast was good and Tren would put on a bit of size and strength and the mast would dry me out afterward. Sounds like an awesome cycle to me.

 

[goin on 4T]

If the lab will cheat you on the blend, they will cheat you on the unblended as well.

Nope not on test. Test is cheap.


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[goin on 4T]

Nope not on test. Test is cheap. You obviously don't know what it costs to make a bottle of gear.


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[notjake11]

Nope not on test. Test is cheap.


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True, but OP isn't talking about runnign just test. What I meant was whether he bought it as a blend or as three separate compounds there is no way to be sure that the more expensive ones aren't underdosed or just another cheaper compound entirely.

 

[goin on 4T]

True, but OP isn't talking about runnign just test. What I meant was whether he bought it as a blend or as three separate compounds there is no way to be sure that the more expensive ones aren't underdosed or just another cheaper compound entirely.

That is not true. I have seen from guys who tested their gear that is how I know.


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[joeblow12345]

Really just to add a few lbs drop to 8-9% I know that's mainly diet and increase strength. Winny was horrible on my joints so that won't happen again Ive heard mast was good and Tren would put on a bit of size and strength and the mast would dry me out afterward. Sounds like an awesome cycle to me.

If that's what your after then prop, tren, and mast will do it. I strongly suggest n2guard with tren to keep everything in check.


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[Jefferyaron]

Awesome thank you my last cycle I kick started week 1-4 MHN 1-12 test e and finished up winny 1-12 ran n2guard full cycle I ha no issues what's so ever so I will def be running n2guard again!!!

 

[EZ_E]

If that's what your after then prop, tren, and mast will do it. I strongly suggest n2guard with tren to keep everything in check.


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I'm for prop/mast/tren ace

~EZ

 

[Jefferyaron]

Bahahahahah I've def heard people say it's the best cutting cycle ever lmao

 

[bigbassturd]

At your BF% I would absolutely include mast in whatever you do

Not a big fan of blends either, buy separate and make your own.

A test prop/tren ace/mast prop run would rip you up and add lean mass man

But like joe said, full dose of n2guard for the tren sides

 

[Jefferyaron]

Yea My metabolism is awesome but I've also been eating much cleaner and it's def helped out!!!
Yea Im gyno prone so I'd def have dostinex on hand as well as n2guard to keep everything else in check.

 

[bigbassturd]

I would also have an AI on hand.

Masteron has properties that limit excessive estrogen, but I wouldn't totally trust it while running test if you are gyno prone.

Aromasin 12.5mg EOD will do if you see any sides start popping up. You may not need it, but if you do, it's best you have it on hand.

 

[Jefferyaron]

Yea I normally have aromasin on hand as well I should have mentioned that. I don't break out much on cycle but if I run aromasin I have no issues so it's always a plus with gyno and acne for me lol

 

[Jefferyaron]

So being that I haven't dealt with short esters at all would you run test prop at 150mg, Tren and mast @100mg eod for 8 weeks?!? That's my real issue. I've only dealt with long esters...

 

[bigbassturd]

Yeah that breaks down to 525 of test and 350 on mast and tren per week which is a pretty good dose of each.

You're gonna have to rotate pin sites more since you're pushing 3.5 mL EOD

 

[Jefferyaron]

Yea would it be ok to rotate glutes and delts? I'd rather not pin my quads lol.

 

[bigbassturd]

Yeah, just keep in mind the scar tissue will eventually build up over time. Quads aren't all that bad man, but you can get away with 4 pin sites if you want to

 

[goin on 4T]

I would keep short esters to lower body injects. Especially prop.


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[Jefferyaron]

Because of soreness?

 

[goin on 4T]

Because of soreness?

Yuuuppppp
Or you could dilute for comfort if you must shoot delts. That's what I do for my bro.


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[Jefferyaron]

I heat my oils up before hand it's helped quite a bit actually... I hear prop is quite painful lol

 

[goin on 4T]

I heat my oils up before hand it's helped quite a bit actually... I hear prop is quite painful lol

I would say at 100mg 75% peps complain.
At 50mg it drops to 20% and those are mostly first time users.



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[goin on 4T]

I heat my oils up before hand it's helped quite a bit actually... I hear prop is quite painful lol

Dilute is adding sterile oil cutting the mg/ml generally you add 1ml of sterile gs oil to 1ml of gear.


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[Jefferyaron]

No no I know lol sorry about that I went off in an off topic rant...

 

[goin on 4T]

No no I know lol sorry about that I went off in an off topic rant...

Oh lol np.


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[Jefferyaron]

Thanks though my bad

 

[EZ_E]

You can get away with 100 mg of prop

~EZ

 

[rustilldown]

Ya you don't need 150 try 100 Mgs at first .. Less pip less oil, don't be afraid of quad shots they are my fav

 

[Jefferyaron]

I was just about to ask so ican run all @100mgs? Yea idk what it is about the quad I'm being a bitch about lmao

 

[rustilldown]

I was just about to ask so ican run all @100mgs? Yea idk what it is about the quad I'm being a bitch about lmao

Just look up where to inject on quad and give it a go man! I have even done a calf shot and chest shot too, now thAts scary lol! Yah try out 100 of each if your really not feeling that "on" drive up your test some but for me personally 100 eod of prop works wel everytime !

 

[Jefferyaron]

Yea I'm actually in a medical company in the army lol... Although I hate needles lmao... I've heard of chest/bi/Tri/calve shots that fucking brave lmao. Ill stick with a 100 sounds good to me lol.