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billyburg

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Hey guys,

My cycle is as follows:

HGH for 3 months @ 12ius every other day.

Enthanate 1000mg every week

Deca @ 400mg every week

I am thinking of increasing my Deca dosage to 600mg and Test to an additional 250mg. What do you think? Also, when should I throw winny in during the 4th week of my 12 week cycle? And is it okay to take every other day (ampuls)?

I have done three cycles before, it was very similar and I am basically increasing my dosage.
 
billyburg said:
Hey guys,

My cycle is as follows:

HGH for 3 months @ 12ius every other day.

Enthanate 1000mg every week

Deca @ 400mg every week

I am thinking of increasing my Deca dosage to 600mg and Test to an additional 250mg. What do you think? Also, when should I throw winny in during the 4th week of my 12 week cycle? And is it okay to take every other day (ampuls)?

I have done three cycles before, it was very similar and I am basically increasing my dosage.
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need info, stats, how many cycles you have done, bulking/cutting??

ps, gh is best used every day, split into 2 shots
 
do yourself a favor and get some femera for that one, its easy to get and if you can afford gh, im sure you can afford some femera
 
I dont like your GH dosing schedule and I dont like deca at 4-600mg for so long. Your HPTA will be shot.

I would lower the test to 750mg a week, use EQ at 600mg for 12 weeks. I would add A-dex or Femera for the entire cycle. I would run the the GH at 2ius 3 times a day, 6 on 1 off. Being GH has such a short halflife, to get the full effect you must keep the levles more constant.

Just my 2 cents
 
LAWNSAVER said:
I dont like your GH dosing schedule and I dont like deca at 4-600mg for so long. Your HPTA will be shot.

I would lower the test to 750mg a week, use EQ at 600mg for 12 weeks. I would add A-dex or Femera for the entire cycle. I would run the the GH at 2ius 3 times a day, 6 on 1 off. Being GH has such a short halflife, to get the full effect you must keep the levles more constant.

Just my 2 cents
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cant advise to lower the doses, for all we know he might have been juicing for 10years straight
 
I have been juicing for 7 years myself and I still use moderate doses. I think the diet is the key!! If you are eating enough cals and protien, you will grow on 300mg a week.
 
LAWNSAVER said:
I have been juicing for 7 years myself and I still use moderate doses. I think the diet is the key!! If you are eating enough cals and protien, you will grow on 300mg a week.
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thats true, but every1 responds to gear differently, some grow from 400mg/test/week and keep growing on the same dose cycle after cycle, others need to up their doses to keep on progressing. another thing to consider is the main goal.......if its the most size possible then you have to push the doses more agressively, it you just want to look good at a club then no need to more then 1g/week total

BUT DIET IS THE KEY...............
 
What's up guys,

Actually, this is my 3rd cycle and my stats are:

185-192
5'8"

I am looking to bulk up. I spoke to a couple of people and they suggested every other day on the days aI work out. Why wouldn't it be constant in that instance?
 
Its always ok to throw in some winny.

GH is in and out of your system in 3 hrs. If you take 12ius EOD you are only getting its effects for a few hrs EOD. I would want to have its effects all day long. Its the reason you take d-bol every 4 hrs, or fina ED. It has to due with the halflife.

Believe me you will get much better results that way!

Serge, you are correct that gear effect everyone differently, but if you looked close at my advice the changes I made would yield much better results.

I did lower the test, but I dropped the deca, which could have caused a major crash at the end, and added EQ at a higher dose. I also made his gh injections much more effective.

His new plan would make a huge difference. And again, diet is the deciding factor in any cycle. Most people up their doses because they dont pay enough attention to food intake. Gear is not magic, but can be magical with the right diet and training program!!
 
Hey guys,

Thanks for your input. I definitely need to increase my caloric intake. I am just so parnoid about getting fat, but if you have a good cycle and eat healthy, i know it will work out. I once weighed 149 and now I am 185-192. It is a challenge reaching my next weight goal, which is 200-205.

On the other hand, we are our worst critic and I am the ipitome of being your worst critic.

Your advice on GH make a lot of sense. Actually, I started out that way and took someones suggestion, which seems not to be favorable amongst you guys. So are you saying to stop taking Deca and switch to EQ? I will definitely change my GH intake and schedule, i am going to leave the test as is (4 ampuls weekly @250mg). I will be phasing out dbol by this week and throwing in Winny ampuls. I can't risk throwing in oral Winny, as I am sort of feeling a little pain on my back. Well, maybe. Again, I could just be paranoid.
 
winny's halflife is about 8 hrs. I did not know you started your cycle yet. If you can change to EQ now I would, but only if you can take it for at least 8 weeks at 600mg. Injecting winny does not help your liver much as it will still go through. Add some ALA and tylers liver factors right away, and you always should include ALA to any cycle containing orals!
 
Hey Lawnsaver,

I have been taking ALA (Time Release 300mg) @ 2 tabs a day. What is Tylers? Why change to EQ? I am on the beginning of my 4th week. By the way, how long does it take for EQ to take effect? What is the half life? What are tylers?
 
Go to www.anabolicfitness.com and click on "AF Store" for Tylers

I wanted you to change to EQ because it is a lot easier on your HPTA. Deca shuts me down for months, even with HCG and clomid. I dont want you to lose your new muscle growth due to low test levels after your cycle. I would email [email protected] and order some of his 500mg ALA. They are like $.20 a piece and take 3 a day. Tell him I sent you.

EQ takes about 4-5 weeks to kick in. If you are in week 4 you might as well not stop the deca.
 
LAWNSAVER said:
Its always ok to throw in some winny.

GH is in and out of your system in 3 hrs. If you take 12ius EOD you are only getting its effects for a few hrs EOD. I would want to have its effects all day long. Its the reason you take d-bol every 4 hrs, or fina ED. It has to due with the halflife.

Believe me you will get much better results that way!

Serge, you are correct that gear effect everyone differently, but if you looked close at my advice the changes I made would yield much better results.

I did lower the test, but I dropped the deca, which could have caused a major crash at the end, and added EQ at a higher dose. I also made his gh injections much more effective.

His new plan would make a huge difference. And again, diet is the deciding factor in any cycle. Most people up their doses because they dont pay enough attention to food intake. Gear is not magic, but can be magical with the right diet and training program!!
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being its only his you plan will definetly be good, GH is not needed; it being only 3rd cycle AS will produce great gains, GH can be used when coming off as a bridge instead

i would go with eq instead of deca if you can get it

do yourself a favor and pick up some femera to control aromatisation
 
So after my cycle take GH? I guess it wouldn't be a big deal to stop now, right? I have been on GH for 21/2 weeks. What is your reasoning for taking EQ instead of Deca? Is it the same as Lawnsaver?
 
billyburg said:
So after my cycle take GH? I guess it wouldn't be a big deal to stop now, right? I have been on GH for 21/2 weeks. What is your reasoning for taking EQ instead of Deca? Is it the same as Lawnsaver?
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its fine to stop using gh now, eq is a better choice since sides are much easier to control, deca also bloats pretty badly, eq does not; the post cycle HPTA recovery from eq is much easier then from deca
 
What has been your experience with EQ? results? And what did you cycle it with? Out of curiousity, what is your eating like while on a cycle?
 
billyburg said:
What has been your experience with EQ? results? And what did you cycle it with? Out of curiousity, what is your eating like while on a cycle?
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i get anxiety from eq, but vascularity is awesome, and no sides other then that, feel nice and full all the time. i suggest eating as clean as possible gorging yourself with CLEAN FOODS
 
billyburg said:
Would you throw in EQ with Deca?
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you can do that also, the main point is to use just enouph gear to max out your gains while minimizing sides, DONT THROW SHIT IN JUST FOR THE HELL OF IT. go by total mgs/week administered, best thing to do is run 2 items at a time that way you will find out what works for you and what does not, if you mix and match 5different drugs how will you know whats doing what?
 
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