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colorado1975

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I am brainstorming on my next cycle that I will be running mid March or so should my BW show ok beforehand. My stats:
37
5'11
191 lbs
10% bf
Working out for the past 15 years with some breaks (running, weights, etc.)

I started TRT after my last cycle at 160mg test testosterone cypionate /week (2 x 80 mg per week). I have had low test prior to my first cycle. 2 years ago it was at about 330 (348-1197) and this past september it was 339 and 2 weeks ago it was up to 900. I plan on decreasing my TRT does to 120mg/week as I feel I dont need it to be as high as 160mg/wk.

Anyhow, what do you guys think about the following cutting cycle (this would be my 3rd run on Tren and 1st on EQ)?

Week 1-14: test testosterone cyp / 240mg/week (80mg M, W, F)
Week 1-8: trenbolone Hex or E / 360mg/week (120mg M, W, F)
Week 1-14: Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - / 540mg/week (180mg M, W, F)
Week 1-9: Caber (dosage as TBD)
Week 1-14: 250iu HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - x 2/week
Week 1-14: Aromasin (dosage TBD)

Two additional questions - being on TRT for life, should I substitute some of the test testosterone propionate with test testosterone cypionate so I dont have any issues when I would go back to test testosterone cypionate after the cycle? Seems like there may be a lag time for the test testosterone cypionate to start working again as it is a long ester. Also, would anybody suggest running Primo instead of EQ as my goal is to cut?

Any feedback would be great!

Thanks!
 
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Here is what I'd do.

1-16 test cyp 300 mg week
1-16 eq 600 mg week
1-10 tren e 400 mg week
1-10 n2guard
1-14 caber 0.25-0.5 mg 2xs week
1-16 adex as needed
1-4 hcgen and unleashed
8-12 hcg and proviron
16-20 hcgen and unleashed
16-24 igf lr3
16-? Test cyp 150 mg hrt dose

I'd also run n2slin and gear on cycle to maximize nutrient usage. And I wouldn't bother with prop since your running long esters anyway.



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have you ever thought about running primo?

hey bud, seriously thinking about primo instead of EQ....if primo I would do:

Week 1-16: test testosterone cypionate / 80mg EOD
Week 1-8: trenbolone Hex or E / 100 EOD
Week 1-16: Primobolan - methenolone - / 200mg EOD
Week 1-9: Caber (dosage as TBD)
Week 1-16: 250iu HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - - human chorionic gonadotropin - x 2/week
Week 1-16: Aromasin (dosage TBD)
and posssibly integrate additional suggestions from joeblow above.

My main goal is cutting and sustainable muscle (not just appearance of looking much better while on cycle) -- cliche these days I realize - but I don't compete just like looking and feeling better. I will be doing more cross fit during this cycle as well. You think primo would suit my goals better? The reason I would pick primo is less chance of risky blood numbers and....reason I wouldn't is fear of effects on hairline....tren doesnt seem to hurt my hairline...my hair seemed to stop growing while on Mast....fear of EQ is the anxiety some seem to get on it but it sounds appealing bc of enhanced cardio/endurance. Thoughts?
 
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Here is what I'd do.

1-16 test cyp 300 mg week
1-16 eq 600 mg week
1-10 tren e 400 mg week
1-10 n2guard
1-14 caber 0.25-0.5 mg 2xs week
1-16 adex as needed
1-4 hcgen and unleashed
8-12 hcg and proviron
16-20 hcgen and unleashed
16-24 igf lr3
16-? Test cyp 150 mg hrt dose

I'd also run n2slin and gear on cycle to maximize nutrient usage. And I wouldn't bother with prop since your running long esters anyway.



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Hi Joe, thanks for the reply!

what are your thoughts on running Primo instead of EQ? Also, I have n2guard, hcgen and unleashed, and proviron on hand. I will add all but am wondering about provision...why do you suggest adding this? Also, what are your thoughts behind
week 16-24 igf lr3. I am not very familiar with this compound.
Thanks!
 
hey bud, seriously thinking about primo instead of EQ....if primo I would do:

Week 1-16: test testosterone cypionate / 80mg EOD
Week 1-8: trenbolone Hex or E / 100 EOD
Week 1-16: Primobolan - methenolone - / 200mg EOD
Week 1-9: Caber (dosage as TBD)
Week 1-16: 250iu HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - - human chorionic gonadotropin - x 2/week
Week 1-16: Aromasin (dosage TBD)
and posssibly integrate additional suggestions from joeblow above.

My main goal is cutting and sustainable muscle (not just appearance of looking much better while on cycle) -- cliche these days I realize - but I don't compete just like looking and feeling better. I will be doing more cross fit during this cycle as well. You think primo would suit my goals better? The reason I would pick primo is less chance of risky blood numbers and....reason I wouldn't is fear of effects on hairline....tren doesnt seem to hurt my hairline...my hair seemed to stop growing while on Mast....fear of EQ is the anxiety some seem to get on it but it sounds appealing bc of enhanced cardio/endurance. Thoughts?

I was thinking more along the lines of dropping tren and running test, mast, primo and eq... Thats what im probably going to run next
 
Hi Joe, thanks for the reply!

what are your thoughts on running Primo instead of EQ? Also, I have n2guard, hcgen and unleashed, and proviron on hand. I will add all but am wondering about provision...why do you suggest adding this? Also, what are your thoughts behind
week 16-24 igf lr3. I am not very familiar with this compound.
Thanks!

I feel primo is a great aas and of you can afford it then I'd go with that. I just don't normally recommend it because it carries a ridiculous price tag. The reason I suggest proviron is it raises free test and lowers shbg. This enhances the effects of the other aas and keeps libido strong.


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I feel primo is a great aas and of you can afford it then I'd go with that. I just don't normally recommend it because it carries a ridiculous price tag. The reason I suggest proviron is it raises free test and lowers shbg. This enhances the effects of the other aas and keeps libido strong.


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Thanks Joe! I have the primo on hand so price isnt really an issue....I plan on doing a lot of cross fit during this next cycle to help cut....also will throw in some yoga sculpt as well. I want to continue my quest for a shredded fitness model physique....not looking to be 'huge'....every day I seem to change my mind between EQ and Primo! Good to know one of your thoughts against primo was cost. This helps. Gonna def keep Tren as tren helped me in my major transformation. Gotta love Tren! You have a preference between tren hex and teen e? I have both.
 
I will warn you ahead of time that tren will hinder cardio to an extent. So if your doing a lot of endurance stuff you may wanna include some albuterol. As far as my tren preference I like tren e. I'm not a fan of pinning multiple times a week. 2 pins a week is about all I wanna do and if I can get away with one even better.


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