Cycle help - Flame on!

[muslhead]

This post ought to be fodder for your board, go ahead and have fun at my expense !!!
I would appreciate your input or suggestions (flame on guys!) on my planned cycle. First a little background 6'1, 210 - 10%bf 45yrs old. Last cycle 86 (no that is not a typo nor does it mean 1886 .
Am suseptable to gyno (had surgery in 87). Been working out religously (5x/week) since1980. My diet is excellent (low fat, protein >150g/day).

Proposed Cycle
Wk1 - 250 Sus, 20mg/day Dbol
Wk2 - 250 Sus, 15mg/day Dbol
Wk3 - 250 Sus, 10mg/day Dbol
Wk4 - 250 Sus, 5mg/day Dbol
Wk5- 200 Eq, 100 Primo
Wk6- 200 Eq, 100 Primo
Wk7- 200 Eq, 100 Primo
Wk8- 200 Eq, 100 Primo
Wk9 - HCG
Wk10- HCG
Wk11-Clomid
Wk12-Clomid

I have some Nolvadex, should I take it @20mg/day through the whole cycle or say starting wk 5 after the sus.
Ok I know youre going to say you dumbshit why are you taking Dbol and Sus if youre prone to gyno. 1) I wanted to kick start the cycle and I noticed for my body it was only late in my previous cycles that I became gyn sensitive.
Since it was a while since I have been on the "darkside" I wanted to keep the dosages low"ish" and to minimize the "hard on the liver gear" to see how I react. My liver enzymes have read in the high range since I have begun monitoring them back in 83. I just had a liver biopsy for a possible connection with hemachromatosis (high iron concentrations in the blood) and everything looked fine.

I have never used Eq but read that it needs to be in higher dosages to be effective so should I bump it up even with the 100 primo.

I guess this should be enough to start the dialog.
Thanks for your input and take it easy on us old guys or I'll beat you with my cane.

 

[lincoln]

You arent running them long enough. Four weeks of Eq will do nothing. THe levels wont be built up enough yet.

Bump for more experienced peeps.

 

[BigAndy69]

Things have change since 86 my man, That's a terrible cycle, where do I start.

You can chose to do the eq or the sust or do them both together, but at your age, I would recommend the sust.


Sust: 250-375mg a week with Dbol run at 15-20mg a day the first 4 weeks.

Add 200mg of primo a week the last 3 weeks(no sust the last 3 weeks) of your cycle and then hit clomid

Arimidex would be a nice addition to this cycle at .5mg EOD

 

[muslhead]

BigAndy:
Thanks, man
I realize that shit has changed dramatically since 86 and that is y i was looking for a little guidance here.

For any other repliers -
Please feel free to offer suggested cycles taking into consideration my concerns/desires. I really would like to have input from some experts.
PS - I'd love to add some deca since it is good on the joints but am afraid of progest gyno since I dont no what caused the previous gyno flare up. My last cycle had dbol. test, and deca.


One last thing, sorry to ask such a stupid question but what does "bump" mean?

 

[Golfer18--old]

Take into account back in 86 i dont think you were taking arimidex and nolvadex.


I would go with this:

Sus 500mg week 1-8
Eq 400mg Week 1-10
Fina 75mgEOD 1-6

Arimidex and Nolvadex.
Clomid Post cycle.


I dont know if u want to bulk or not......

 

[Golfer18--old]

Between Arimidex and Nolvadex i think u can get by easily.

here is some info on arimidex. The prices are down to 3$ per mg.




Arimidex is not a steroid. It is a tablet form anti-aromitase that is used by many body builders to help prevent bloating (edema) and Gynecomastia (bitch tit) associated with the use of testosterone and androgens. It can be used in place of Nolvadex ,Clomid, etc. Bodybuilders are using around .25mg to 1mg per day or .5mg to 1mg every other day and are having good success with it. A box of 28/1mg tablets will run around $200-$300. There is a new liquid form that was introduced and made available May of 2001 that comes in a 20ml bottle and contains 4mg/ml. The price is much better and can be found for as little as $260 a bottle versus $550 for the same amount in tablet form. The FDA approved uses are for the treatment of breast cancer in post-menopausal women with disease progression following tamoxifen therapy. Hypersensitivity to anastrozole are reasons not to use this drug. If you have these problems please inform your doctor. Common side effects are: shortness of breath, dizziness, diarrhea, vomiting, headache, hat flashes, weakness, cough, dry mouth, skin rash, sweating, abdominal pain and bone pain. Some less common symptoms are vaginal bleeding, weight gain, tiredness, chills, fever, breast pain, and itching. In case of an overdose, it is recommended to contact your poison control center.

 

[muslhead]

Thanks for the input Golfer.

Bulk is good (and what I want).
Am kind leary of the fin man, can you suggest anything else.
Also the Arimidex and Nolvadex throughout the entire cycle?
Am having trouble getting my hands on Arimidex would nolvadex alone be sufficient?

Thanks again for everyone's help

 

[Golfer18--old]

You can get your hands on arimidex easily....email a mod.

here is a good bulking cycle

Weeks 1-4 dbol 25mgED
Weeks 1-8 Sus 500mg
Weeks1-8 Deca 300mg

You cant beat that for bulking.

 

[HugeWannabe]

You can get your hands on arimidex easily....email a mod.

here is a good bulking cycle

Weeks 1-4 dbol 25mgED
Weeks 1-8 Sus 500mg
Weeks1-8 Deca 300mg

You cant beat that for bulking.

Golfers got it!