Cycle for Older guy

[muscle_geek]

I need some help on this one. A long time friend of mine is looking to do a cycle. He is 38 years old. About 6'2 180 and maybe 13% BF. He's been working out for a long time and I guess the best way to describe him is wiry. He wants to really put on some size. I'm not sure what's best for someone that's a little older than the norm. He's never cycled before. I was going to put him on test and fina because I personally love the combination. I'm not one of the people that thinks you shouldn't use Fina on your first cycle. Can anyone help me with some ideas for a 10 weeks cycle for this guy? Thanks.

 

[Jeff_rys]

38 old ?

He can use just about everything, only not overdo it.
If he wants size Trenbolone Acetate could be the answer. I don't like Test myself, most swear by it.

Jeff

 

[hockey1]

started at 42 years old

TEST 600mgs weekly 1-10
DECCA 400mgs weekly1-10
DBOL 40mgs. daily 1-6 or FINA 100mgs eod weeks 1-10

This is a basic cycle and should yield nice results,you could of course add the fina instead of the dbol 100mgs eod weeks 1-10,dont forget the clomid for post cycle,seeing as he is older the natural test will be hard to get back so HCG mid cycle might be a good idea also.I put on 32 pounds of quality size with my abs showing in one year of juicing,never would have come close naturally.

 

[Realgains]

I think that your test tren idea is a great one......no better stack IMO. I would not worry about the tren. First of all it is not kidney toxic(MYTH) and secondly there are roids out there that are much harsher than tren ie: d-dol and anadrol. Tren has gotten a bad rap for being "harsh" ...this is crap IMO and believe me I am conservative. The ONLY reason not to use tren is that one needs to inject DAILY for best results and this can turn SOME men off. BUT.....if you use a 27 or 29 pin and an insulin syringe it is NO PROBLEM at all. Just be sure to show him how to inject ...uppper outer glutes and lateral mid thigh etc.

I recommend this..........test cyp or enanthate 500/week and tren 50 per day. Run the test for 6 weeks and then stop. Continue on with the tren at 50 per day and after week 8 stop. Three days later hit the clomid HARD. Do 300mg on day one in divided doses in order to get the blood levels up and then 50-100 for 10 days and then 50 for another ten days.

It would be best to front load the test at 600 on day one and then inject biweekly from then onward. Ie: 600 on day one and then 250 three days later...continue on with 250 injected biweekly.

Have nolva on hand.

This is a safe, sane and VERY productive cycle. It has no 17aa orals because tren is better than any of them and it is also safer to use for sure. The tren and front laod of test will "kick start" the cycle very well too.

This is a good newbie cycle IF help is given initially with injections.

If he doesn't want to use the tren then just do test cyp 500per week....be SURE to front load like I said.

 

[Realgains]

He could also try a two week cycle to start with. Two week cycles are great cause only the testes and pituitary are inhibited...the hypothalamus inhibits in cycles three weeks and longer. Recovery of natural test levels are VERY rapid with a two week cycle AND most men experince little to NO sides due to the short length.

TRY THIS.......... Front load tren at 100-150 on day one and then do 75 per day. Stop after day 11. Do d-bol 50 per day in five divided doses and stop after day 14 pm dose. I know I said that I don't like 17 aa roids but since he would only be on for 14 days it is no big deal. IF he eats well and consumes 300mg of protein per day he should keep 5-8 pounds and he will keep ALL his strength.

Don't forget the clomid and use it like I suggested in my previuos post.


This is a great intro to cycling.

 

[jboldman]

Since I am an older guy(much older), i like this cycle for an older beginner. The only change that I would make is start the tren at 75mg eod, see how it goes and then switch up to 50-75 mg ed if no problems develop. Make sure to have some tamoxifen on hand if needed for gyno(unlikely).

jb

I think that your test tren idea is a great one......no better stack IMO. I would not worry about the tren. First of all it is not kidney toxic(MYTH) and secondly there are roids out there that are much harsher than tren ie: d-dol and anadrol. Tren has gotten a bad rap for being "harsh" ...this is crap IMO and believe me I am conservative. The ONLY reason not to use tren is that one needs to inject DAILY for best results and this can turn SOME men off. BUT.....if you use a 27 or 29 pin and an insulin syringe it is NO PROBLEM at all. Just be sure to show him how to inject ...uppper outer glutes and lateral mid thigh etc.

I recommend this..........test cyp or enanthate 500/week and tren 50 per day. Run the test for 6 weeks and then stop. Continue on with the tren at 50 per day and after week 8 stop. Three days later hit the clomid HARD. Do 300mg on day one in divided doses in order to get the blood levels up and then 50-100 for 10 days and then 50 for another ten days.

It would be best to front load the test at 600 on day one and then inject biweekly from then onward. Ie: 600 on day one and then 250 three days later...continue on with 250 injected biweekly.

Have nolva on hand.

This is a safe, sane and VERY productive cycle. It has no 17aa orals because tren is better than any of them and it is also safer to use for sure. The tren and front laod of test will "kick start" the cycle very well too.

This is a good newbie cycle IF help is given initially with injections.

If he doesn't want to use the tren then just do test cyp 500per week....be SURE to front load like I said.