CYCLE -- educated critics please

[bbkingpin]

NPP 300-400mg/week
Tren E 200-300mg/week
Winny 50mg/day
Nolva 10-20mg/day

I have test suspension for instant libido and liquid cialis for instant wood. But no test throughout cycle, I don't want to be hormonal.

 

[chefbone]

If you have an ol' lady, get some Cialis or add test

 

[JuicedAthletics]

I love it bro. Sounds like a great cycle..

In my experience, test WITH deca causes loss of libido and hard recovery. I recover better on test alone or deca alone, the two are tough to come off of..

You are going to be full and vascular. TRUST ME..
GOOD LUCK

Oh yea, If sexual issues are an issue, proviron would fit better than test.

 

[swordfish151]

NPP 300-400mg/week
Tren E 200-300mg/week
Winny 50mg/day
Nolva 10-20mg/day

cialis?

 

[bbkingpin]

Thanks, bros, I edited to clarify. Test and cialis are part of cycle just to keep the wife smiling.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

why are you taking nolva?

 

[chefbone]

Thanks, bros, I edited to clarify. Test and cialis are part of cycle just to keep the wife smiling.

Word!!!!

 

[toxicsambo]

The dosage of each compound is right on. The nolva is questionable. Winstrol and Tren wont aromatize and nolva wont do anything to help prolactin levels if thats what your aim is. Maybe dostinex would be better for prolactin worries. Throw some proviron bro. Your wang will be strong like bull and it will make the other compounds more effective. Looks like a nice cycle man.

 

[bbkingpin]

why are you taking nolva?

I prefer to be safe rather than sorry. Nandrolone does aromatize but not a lot, from what I remember reading. If there was no nandrolone in the mix, I would not take nolva. But Tren also, according to Big Cat, wont cause gyno unless in the presence of another compound that aromatizes, so if NPP causes any estro to circulate, I don't want to combine it with the supposed progestin effects of tren. I like to take nolva practically year round just because...

 

[ur2insecure]

Looks good,

I may have done 500mg of Test E per Week but thats just me.

Lets us know how you get on mate.

 

[Big_Joe]

I would be more concerned with prolactin levels then estrogen. Cabergoline also called dostinex should help a lot so you aren't shut down after you come off. There is a lot of speculation about dosage but I suspect .5mg three time per week should help.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

But Tren also, according to Big Cat, wont cause gyno unless in the presence of another compound that aromatizes

this is wrong, there are a number of people on this site alone that have gotten gyno on tren only cycles, though well aware that he beleives that.

 

[bbkingpin]

this is wrong, there are a number of people on this site alone that have gotten gyno on tren only cycles, though well aware that he beleives that.

ALL THE MORE REASON TO TAKE THE NOLVA THEN.
YOU ASKED ME WHY THE NOLVA MACRO.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

it was rhetorical... perhaps a bit ill concieved.. had hoped that someone else would chime in with the answer...

nolva generally, should probably not be used with trenbolone or nandrolone (or any progestin for that matter) because it upregulates the PgR. Now in some people this is not a big deal, in others the use of nolva increases sides and potential for gynecomastia. (this really depends on receptor isoforms).

 

[Bruce]

read this about dostinex and tren gyno. its so weird juicedathletics and i both had that happen, on deca only i was fine, mixed with test it fucked me up bad.
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=434016&highlight=dostinex+makavelli

 

[ur2insecure]

I always take nolva with deca, If i dont my gyno does flare up at i need 20mg as 10mg does not do work for me.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

try taking an aromatase inhibitor instead... stops nandrolone from converting to E metabolite and down regulates PgR

 

[Wulfgar]

I agree with macro
3rd gen AI's are the way to go in most every instance. Aromasin, Adex, Formastane(if you can get it, i really like the stuff), or letro

 

[bbkingpin]

try taking an aromatase inhibitor instead... stops nandrolone from converting to E metabolite and down regulates PgR

Good idea. Thanks, I have some liquid letro from AG, what dosage?

 

[macrophage69alpha]

try 1.25 eod

 

[UA_Iron]

I agree with macro
3rd gen AI's are the way to go in most every instance. Aromasin, Adex, Formastane(if you can get it, i really like the stuff), or letro

first person I've seen on this board to have taken Formestane and commented about it.

From what I have heard about it it is a weaker AI than the others...what do you particularly like about it?

 

[black sheep]

I did NPP and Tren in the same cycle about a year ago. I was also on test at the time however. I took dostinex and arimidex the whole time and had no libido or gyno issues. It was a good cycle, I liked it. I wish my powder source had dostinex powder - I would do it again!