cycle critique

[ricorico]

stats.. 6'2" 1/2
220 lbs
somewhere between 10-12 %bf...i really dont know
cycle history...couple deca only cycles
couple deca/test
1 dbol only
1 deca/test/winstrol
lookin to put on about 15 lbs of quality muscle (or more)

heres what im thinking....trying to get a blue print for 1st cycle of next year
EQ 400mgs weeks 1-10 (800mg frontload?)
CYP 400-500 mgs weeks 1-10 (1g frontload?)
TREN 75mgs eod weeks 5-10

PCT....HCG, Nolva, Clomid

 

[ElMatador]

I would use nolva during the cycle...

 

[ricorico]

I would use nolva during the cycle...

i wonder if 20mgs eod will suffice.....i try not to take it during bc of the possiblity that it may hamper gains

 

[azul]

i wonder if 20mgs eod will suffice.....i try not to take it during bc of the possiblity that it may hamper gains

It won't.

 

[Throw2Far]

Ya nolva blocks estrogen receptor sites, it doesnt alter estrogen levels so it won't effect gains... ya i'd take nolva 20 eod the whole way through...

Also Im not a big fan of frontloading in 10 week cycles... What are others opinions on frontloading? ? ?

 

[Outtlaw]

I like it, I'd just extend the tren 2-3 more weeks.

 

[ricorico]

I like it, I'd just extend the tren 2-3 more weeks.

as in week 3-10 or more like weeks 5-12???

 

[ElMatador]

i wonder if 20mgs eod will suffice.....i try not to take it during bc of the possiblity that it may hamper gains

Bro...you gonna use test...it will be good to use some anti-e's during the cycle...it's my opinion...

 

[ricorico]

Bro...you gonna use test...it will be good to use some anti-e's during the cycle...it's my opinion...

i understand where your coming from.....just that ive done test in cycles before without anti-e's during the cycle and never had any prob......i always have them close by just incase somthing pops up!...but, f*ck it...1 nolva a day wont hurt....

 

[krishna]

I would use the tren 1 week longer and the EQ 2 weeks longer

tren: 1-6
EQ:1-12

 

[fireflyer]

I would use the tren 1 week longer and the EQ 2 weeks longer

tren: 1-6
EQ:1-12

Why use the tren at the beginning of the cycle?

 

[azul]

Why use the tren at the beginning of the cycle?

That's like asking 'why use testosterone at the beginning of the cycle?'

Cause it builds muscle, that's why.

 

[shamrock11]

I would do this

EQ 1-12 @ 600 mg a week (frontload 1g)
Test C 1-10 @ 500mg a week
Tren 75mg weeks 8-14

 

[silverbackn]

i wonder if 20mgs eod will suffice.....i try not to take it during bc of the possiblity that it may hamper gains

Nolva won't hinder your gains. You will be fine with that. I wouldn't frontload either, those compounds need to be ran for extended amounts of time. If you want to frontload just run something quick like prop or d-bol to jump start.

 

[krishna]

Why use the tren at the beginning of the cycle?[/QUOT

I like what azul said.....haha!

But besides that, the EQ won't kick in for 3-4 weeks, and the cyp won't kick in for a couple weeks, so tren would be a great kicker for this cycle. Plus after the 6 weeks for the tren is up, the EQ will be fully kicked in with the test, and it will be a smooth transition. Then just finish it with the EQ for the last two weeks to get its full benefits.

 

[Outtlaw]

as in week 3-10 or more like weeks 5-12???

1-8 or 5-12.

 

[ricorico]

alright, so heres what i got so far
EQ400mgs 1-12
Cyp500mgs 1-10
Tren75mgs eod 5-12
should i kick start with dbol, prop or drol??anyone think i should add var at the end and do the tren in the begining instead(as a kick start)???

 

[ricorico]

oh yea, and 20 mgs of Nolva daily....

 

[krishna]

alright, so heres what i got so far
EQ400mgs 1-12
Cyp500mgs 1-10
Tren75mgs eod 5-12
should i kick start with dbol, prop or drol??anyone think i should add var at the end and do the tren in the begining instead(as a kick start)???

Well you're not gonna get much of anything the first 3-4 weeks; that's why I suggested tren at the beginning. If you want to kick it off with dbol, that would be cool too.

 

[ryan04]

Run the tren for 8 or 10 wks, fuck that 4 week b.s. With that many cycles under your belt raise the test up to 750 mgs a week, along with an anti-e.

 

[ricorico]

Run the tren for 8 or 10 wks, fuck that 4 week b.s. With that many cycles under your belt raise the test up to 750 mgs a week, along with an anti-e.

i said im gonna do the tren weeks 5-12, that is 8 weeks.......the only prob i have with running the test that high is ill get acne like a mofo....so ill need an alternative, besides 500mgs a week still give me pretty good gains.....maybe ill up the EQ to 600....and do 50mgs drol for first 3 weeks...thoughts????

 

[ricorico]

alright...ive made up my mind...thanx to all!!

 

[ricorico]

You must spread some Karma around before giving it to krishna again.
-sorry dude...they still wont let me give you K....

 

[Outtlaw]

alright, so heres what i got so far
EQ400mgs 1-12
Cyp500mgs 1-10
Tren75mgs eod 5-12
should i kick start with dbol, prop or drol??anyone think i should add var at the end and do the tren in the begining instead(as a kick start)???

If you have var, then I'd run the tren in the beginning and the var at the end.

 

[krishna]

alright...ive made up my mind...thanx to all!!

So what did you decide on?

 

[slat1]

test/eq/tren... that sounds awesome!!!!

 

[ricorico]

alright, after hearing everyones ideas this is what ive decided to do
EQ 600mgs (1-12)
CYP500mgs (1-10)
Tren75mgs eod (1-8)
Var 40 mgs ed (11-14)
Nolva 20mgs ed ....
PCT HCG, Clomid, Nolva

 

[krishna]

Killer stack bro! Don't change a thing!