cycle critique pls

[JayB20]

below is my current cycle. its my 1st so im keeping it short and relatively low dosages:
wk 1-5 deca 200mg/wk
wk 1-8 dianabol 25mg/day
im currently at wk4, i have made some nice gains so far and was thinking of switching the dbol in wks 4-8 to winstrol @ 25mg/30mg a day. the reason being i a have a pretty low bf and with the water gains from the deca/dianabol i am starting to look less defined (as expected). i thought with the winstrol i could harden my existing gains and the small water weight gains from the deca. does anyone agree/disagree? or should i just add nolva to my original cycle plan? also, on a recent visit to the doctors to get bloodwork done, in my 30 min lecture of why anabolics should be avoided, the doc warned of the risk of sudden death. this isnt something i have come across before in the anabolic material i have read as a side-effect, though if true, surely its the worst! is this a genuine risk or is it some kinda scare tactic by my doc? help in both areas would b much appreciated,
Jay

 

[jokerswild]

below is my current cycle. its my 1st so im keeping it short and relatively low dosages:
wk 1-5 deca 200mg/wk
wk 1-8 dianabol 25mg/day
im currently at wk4, i have made some nice gains so far and was thinking of switching the dbol in wks 4-8 to winstrol @ 25mg/30mg a day. the reason being i a have a pretty low bf and with the water gains from the deca/dianabol i am starting to look less defined (as expected). i thought with the winstrol i could harden my existing gains and the small water weight gains from the deca. does anyone agree/disagree? or should i just add nolva to my original cycle plan? also, on a recent visit to the doctors to get bloodwork done, in my 30 min lecture of why anabolics should be avoided, the doc warned of the risk of sudden death. this isnt something i have come across before in the anabolic material i have read as a side-effect, though if true, surely its the worst! is this a genuine risk or is it some kinda scare tactic by my doc? help in both areas would b much appreciated,
Jay

Not enough Deca, cycle period to short for Deca, cycle period to long for Dbol, plus you're not running any test, what about PCT??

 

[longhorn814]

deca needs to run for at least ten weeks. It takes 4-5 weeks for it to kick in. Most of the results you have so far are a result of the dbol bloat. You should be running test too. I would highly recommend you stop now and do some more research on how to properly do a cycle and propose it on here before you start. That way you'll get the best out of your cycles and reduced the sides. I wouldnt worry about the sudden risk of dying, most docs dont have much knowledge about AAS, other than what they see on the liberal news.

 

[JayB20]

oops, forgot to put in pct, which is clomid/nolva wk8-11, 3wks after my last deca. so even if i switched dbol to winstrol, u reckon it would b too long for 17aas? u think its too long even tho its my 1st cycle? deca/dbol was a recommneded cycle in anabolics 2004 so i felt the lack of test would b ok, i trust llewelyn, and the low deca relative to the dbol means i had no probs with getting wood.

 

[UA_Iron]

deca @ 200mg for 5 weeks is a waste. you might as well just run a dbol only cycle.

 

[shamrock11]

I would say the dose of deca is too low. I see no problem with the cycle though as I ran a deca only cycle for my first and I have no problems. Nolva will not help with the bloat from deca you need to take a-dex.

 

[longhorn814]

deca/dbol is an old school. Most dont do it nowadays b/c they know they need test in the cycle. Test should be the base of almost every cycle. Test/deca/dbol is a good bulker if done correctly. Winny needs to be run at 50mg/ed for 6 weeks for good results. Just finish up what youre doing or stop all together, do some research to see how to cycle properly. BTW, even a dose as low as 100mg of deca will shut down your natural test production

 

[eboy]

run the deca longer mate and add some form of test to the cycle drop the d-bol,dont worry about water weight that will help growth and will go after your cycle(as long as your eating fairly clean and not putting on to much fat)add some hcg and nolva for pct and bobs your uncle and fannys your aunt.

 

[babbabuee]

what kind of gains are you making on 200mg/wk?

 

[JayB20]

what kind of gains are you making on 200mg/wk?

7lbs in 3wks. water retention it seems