cycle critique please...

[SmooThy5464]

whats up guys i am 6 foot about 200lbs (really lean) have done 2 cycles in the past one being sust only the other consisting of test cyp./dbal. now looking to gain as much muscle mass as posible without getting "fat" . now i did really well with the cyp./dbal so i am thinking of runnning it again with some fina as follows...

weeks 1-12 test cyp 750mg
weeks 1-6 dball 40mg ED
weeks 6-14 fina 150mg EOD
weeks 14-16 clomid

i have noticed that alot of my growth has been in the first 6 weeks of a test cycle therefore figured i would throw the fina in at week 6 to pick up on the gains. also, wanted the fina to run 2 weeks after last test shot so i could start clomid directly after the fina is finished (seeing how fina is known to shut u down hard) if any1 has any suggestions or opinions on how to modify this cycle please post all help is appreciated ...thx alot guys...

 

[Diabolical]

If it is your first time running Fina, then go with 75mg. EOD, you will see great results off of it.

 

[jubei]

You will see better results with 75mg ed, although ed injections aren't much fun.

 

[SmooThy5464]

do u guys really think there is much of a diference between ED and EOD injections ??? also any other suggestions or comments on how my cycle is set up please post all thoughts are welcome...

 

[bmit]

Looks good and well thought out. But you should run fina ed and just till week 12. If I run fina for more than 6 wks I have MAJOR problems recovering. May want to consider HCG during weeks 13 and 14 and then hit clomid. That would be the ideal way to run it and then recover quickly. 8 weeks on fina and ending with it and not using HCG may lead to recovery problems. You're running anit-e too right?

B MIT

 

[Racer-X99]

weeks 1-12 test cyp 750mg
weeks 1-6 dball 40mg ED
weeks 6-14 fina 150mg EOD
weeks 14-16 clomid

I had similiar body make up as you so I understand the situation. I was 6' and 185lbs. when I crossed over to the dark side. I am on my second cycle and up to almost 220 and leaner than I was at 185.

Test/fina runs have been excellent for me. I don't use orals so no comment on dbol. Don't get too crazy with fina unless you have used it before. I get very tight on fina and I take fina the entire time. It is bs to stop short. I had to get blood work done at the end of my last cycle and all was fine, don't believe the hype.

Eod injections are fine for both. I would load them both up together and do them eod. Wait two weeks after last cyp shot before starting clomid. I would run low levels of anti-e to keep the bloat down during the cycle.

I would do this:

Weeks 1-12: test 750mg/week
Weeks 1-12: fina 75mg eod
Weeks 14-16: clomid

 

[SmooThy5464]

Re: Re: cycle critique please...

I had similiar body make up as you so I understand the situation. I was 6' and 185lbs. when I crossed over to the dark side. I am on my second cycle and up to almost 220 and leaner than I was at 185.

Test/fina runs have been excellent for me. I don't use orals so no comment on dbol. Don't get too crazy with fina unless you have used it before. I get very tight on fina and I take fina the entire time. It is bs to stop short. I had to get blood work done at the end of my last cycle and all was fine, don't believe the hype.

Eod injections are fine for both. I would load them both up together and do them eod. Wait two weeks after last cyp shot before starting clomid. I would run low levels of anti-e to keep the bloat down during the cycle.

I would do this:

Weeks 1-12: test 750mg/week
Weeks 1-12: fina 75mg eod
Weeks 14-16: clomid

looks good man thx alot. so i am assuming u ran ur fina EOD with good results, right? anyway thx for all of ur help (Karma goin ur way)

any1 else with coments please feel free to post...

 

[SmooThy5464]

thx for all of the help guys, if any1 has any final opinions/suggestions be4 i put in my order please post thanks again guys once again Karma 4 help...

 

[Slyder190]

I like the cycle.

It looks good and sounds even better to me. I would be sure to run L-dex and also to have Nolve on hand. Let us know your results - with out a doubt. My next mass cycle will be similar.

 

[Hercules]

I would do it like this:

1 200mg CYP
2 300mg CYP
3 400mg CYP
4 500mg CYP
5 500mg or 600mg of CYP
6 400mg CYP
7 300mg CYP
8 200mg CYP

the rest looks fine but why would you do 12 weeks of test anyways. You know that it is gonna be a waste unless you keep uping the dosages. I dont know about you but after about 8 weeks your body doesnt respond as well to it so why waste it!! 8 weeks is good enough and taper it for a better effect!! I did this same cycle with CYP and some EQ and put on 27lbs in 8 weeks but some of you are the type to load up on it. Your choice but I would recommend it this way!!

 

[Diabolical]

I would do it like this:

1 200mg CYP
2 300mg CYP
3 400mg CYP
4 500mg CYP
5 500mg or 600mg of CYP
6 400mg CYP
7 300mg CYP
8 200mg CYP

You are joking right......
there is no need to pyramid because the long acting ester in cyp will taper itself.

Maybe a frontload to get blood levels up faster, but that isnt necessarily needed.

Run it at 500mg. the whole way through.

Also, start clomid at week 15 instead of 14, to give the test 3 weeks to get out of your system.

Hope that helps.

 

[SmooThy5464]

thx for the responce i was about to say the same thing glad some1 is on my side i am not a fan of old school with cyp or any test for that matter although thx for all of the help guys.

and yes i will look into your idea to start clomid on week 15 instead i just always start clomid 2 weeks after last test shot .

thx for all of the help guys any other suggestions r appreciated...

 

[DaddyX]

fina is fine to do eod. the difference is very minimal IMO. goodluck bro BTW do not taper your cyp, i dont no what the was about

 

[SmooThy5464]

aight man thx alot. cant wait to get started...