Cycle critique please guys...

[Demon Dan]

OK - this will be my 2nd cycle and i'd like to make it as serious as possible without overdoing it or wasting my money... I'm late 20's, 180lb, 5'8". Been training for about 3 yrs. So this is what I've come up with:

Weeks 1-5 - Dianabol tapering up to 50mg/day and back down
Weeks 1-10 - Test enanthate at 250mg / 4days (every 2 days for first week)
Weeks 1-10 - Deca at 200mg / 4days (every 2 days for first week)
Weeks 8-12 - Winny at 50mg eod (taken orally)

Weeks 1-16 - Arimidex at 0.25mg ed
Weeks 11-12 - HCG, 3000iu then 1500iu then 1500iu
Weeks 13.5-16 - Clomid therapy (3 weeks after last test/deca)
Weeks 13.5-16 - Proviron at 25mg / day

Weeks 1-16 - 300g/day ALA
Was gonna take Milk thistle but heard it's a waste of time...

So once you've picked yourself up off the floor - how does it all sound?

Thanks everybody.

 

[Busterball]

I'll stop at the first line....
Tapering the dbol! Up or down, don't do!
Go straight through with the same amount. If you are not getting results (pumps) after 1-2 week then increase. DO NOT TAPPER!

Second:
This is only your second cycle.... TOO MUCH GEAR!

My 2cents!

 

[Slopain]

Id use less dbol and more test. 750mg of test about 300-400mg of deca and no more than 50mg of dbol. Its a decently "serious" cycle, nothing crazy, dont taper the dbol up if you want to step down the last week that wouldnt hurt. Definetly use less dbol and more deca/test I think its actually a little more mild on the body (debatable) but you will see better results for sure. This is your second cycle so you wont see near as good results at the same dosages as the first cycle, but you got to think what your next few cycles will look like if you start banging 100mg of dbol a day.

 

[Maxx Out]

Id use less dbol and more test. 750mg of test about 300-400mg of deca and no more than 50mg of dbol. Its a decently "serious" cycle, nothing crazy, dont taper the dbol up if you want to step down the last week that wouldnt hurt. Definetly use less dbol and more deca/test I think its actually a little more mild on the body (debatable) but you will see better results for sure. This is your second cycle so you wont see near as good results at the same dosages as the first cycle, but you got to think what your next few cycles will look like if you start banging 100mg of dbol a day.

I agree 100% Slopain. You saved me alot of money!



Maxx >>>>>

 

[Demon Dan]

Oops - sorry - 100mg d-bol was actually a mistake. I was thinking in terms of number of tablets - i.e. 10/day - so actually meant 50mg. Have edited my original post.

Why isn't it sensible to increase up to this? Is it just not necessary? Or is the shock a good thing? What I had in mind was 30mg for 3 days, 40mg for 4 days then 50mg....

 

[Slopain]

Oops - sorry - 100mg d-bol was actually a mistake. I was thinking in terms of number of tablets - i.e. 10/day - so actually meant 50mg. Have edited my original post.

Why isn't it sensible to increase up to this? Is it just not necessary? Or is the shock a good thing? What I had in mind was 30mg for 3 days, 40mg for 4 days then 50mg....

It used to be the way everyone did everything, I would say try both ways if you have the time to find out what works better for you, I think the logic is hit the fresh receptors hard at the begining to get the most gains realizable early in the cycle, you can argue both ways, its not necessary for sure - I dont think tapering up is ever really a good thing personally unless your doing a huge cycle and dont want the uncomfortable feeling of having 2 grams of test hitting you at once.

 

[Demon Dan]

Anyway - everything else look ok? Ancillliaries, liver protector etc.

 

[mrt]

I'd increase Arimidex to 1/2 pill ED and ALA to 600mg ED. Plus get some good Multi Vitamin/Antioxidant, extra Vit-C, and a liver protector such as Tyler Detox.

 

[BigD50]

If your taking d-bol to jump start your cycle then I wouldn't bother frontloading your test and deca, it's not needed. Also I think I would make it an 8 week cycle instead of so streched out as it is hard to stay on track for that long. I would do something like this if you do want to run your cycle for that long.

Weeks 1-4 D-bol 35mgs per day/every 4 hours
Weeks 1-8 Test 500mgs per week
Weeks 2-10 Deca 400 mgs per week
Weeks 8-12 Winny 50 mgs ED

Weeks 1-12 Arimidex .25 ED
Weeks 12-15+ Clomid 100/50/50...

Just an opinion.

 

[ultragainz]

ALA for the liver 1000mgs/day....for a cheaper price on ALA go to www.kilosports.com also drink 1-2 gallons of water a day

 

[jstrong20]

Like they said don't taper dbol.