cycle check please!

[Bozwell]

Right then i have finaly got all my shit together
I was just going to do a sust only cycle,but dbol is so cheap,im going to add a low dose along with some proivon to help keep the estrogen away and harden me up.well hears the plan
week1 sust250@1ml
week2 sust250@1ml -5mg of dbol-500mg of milk thistle
week3 sust250@1ml-10mg of dbol-500mg of milk thistle
week4 sust250@1ml-15mg of dbol-500g of mik thistle
week5 sust250@1ml-10mgof dbol-500g of milk thistle
week6 sust250@1ml-5mg of dbol-500g of
week7 sust250@1ml
week8 sust250@1ml
week9 hcg@1000iu on mon 500iu wed and sat
week10 hcg@500iu mon-wed-sat
week11 hcg@500iu mon-wed sat
week12 tamoxafen citrate@50mg ed
week13 40mg
week14 20mg
provion all the way@25mged
cheers

 

[sweed]

wheres the pct? first cycle? looks a little weak imo.. more info bro

 

[Sta11ion]

Your own body produces more test then that, do more research bro. Then come back and post.

 

[help4john]

First cycle.....amount of gear about right....Proviron may be overkill. Proviron is great when you're on (great increase in libido) but may not be appropriate for first cycle. May also hinder recovery for first cycle. Also, start Nolvadex week 9.

Prerefferencing that this is the first cycle .... it may not hurt to bump the milk thistle to 1000mg ED.

Good luck!

 

[rt42690]

Your own body produces more test then that, do more research bro. Then come back and post.

i seriously doubt that someone produces 35mg of free test per day which is what you are saying but i may be wrong. i think that is a decent cycle but would bump the dbol up to 30 and keep it there, if this is his first he may want to try a low dose course of sus to keep it safe, i would add some deca also but that is just me and maybe drop the sus for test e around 400mg ew

 

[hammertime30]

Right then i have finaly got all my shit together
I was just going to do a sust only cycle,but dbol is so cheap,im going to add a low dose along with some proivon to help keep the estrogen away and harden me up.well hears the plan
week1 sust250@1ml
week2 sust250@1ml -5mg of dbol-500mg of milk thistle
week3 sust250@1ml-10mg of dbol-500mg of milk thistle
week4 sust250@1ml-15mg of dbol-500g of mik thistle
week5 sust250@1ml-10mgof dbol-500g of milk thistle
week6 sust250@1ml-5mg of dbol-500g of
week7 sust250@1ml
week8 sust250@1ml
week9 hcg@1000iu on mon 500iu wed and sat
week10 hcg@500iu mon-wed-sat
week11 hcg@500iu mon-wed sat
week12 tamoxafen citrate@50mg ed
week13 40mg
week14 20mg
provion all the way@25mged
cheers

Here's a good basic first cycle bro...don't make it more difficult than what it is; for your first cycle is your learning cycle(how well your body responds to test)

sus - 300-400mg 1-8
dbol - 20-25mg 1-5
hcg - 250iu e3d starting week 2 or 3 (keep the boys up to size don't wait til they shrink)(if needed run HCG 8-10 at 500iu-1000iu e3d)
arimidex .5 eod (bloat control)
nolva - 10-14 40mg for 2 weeks then drop to 20mg for 2 weeks
clomid - 10-14 100mg 2 weeks then drop to 50mg for 2 weeks

 

[Bozwell]

PCT STARTS AT WEEK 9,Its a light cycle because i dont know how i will react the the aas i will be using, if i only gain a few pounds and a slight increase in streanth but have no side effects i will be happy then next time ill use the same aas but more of them(see the plan?)this is my first cycle so its more of an experament than a cycle

 

[slat1]

You will grow off that! The body produces 70mgs of test a week. I put on almost 20lbs from 250mgs a week.
I would use HCG mid cycle... 500ius a day for 10 to 14 days.
Clomid after the esters clear (17 -21 days after last shot) 300 day 1, 100 day 2 to 11, 50 day 12 to 21.
You will be more than happy with the results!

 

[Bozwell]

Your own body produces more test then that, do more research bro. Then come back and post.

YOU PRODUCE OVER QUARTER OF A GRAM OF TEST A WEEK!
How much dbol do you produce

 

[Swoolen_Puppy]

Right then i have finaly got all my shit together
I was just going to do a sust only cycle,but dbol is so cheap,im going to add a low dose along with some proivon to help keep the estrogen away and harden me up.well hears the plan
week1 sust250@1ml
week2 sust250@1ml -5mg of dbol-500mg of milk thistle
week3 sust250@1ml-10mg of dbol-500mg of milk thistle
week4 sust250@1ml-15mg of dbol-500g of mik thistle
week5 sust250@1ml-10mgof dbol-500g of milk thistle
week6 sust250@1ml-5mg of dbol-500g of
week7 sust250@1ml
week8 sust250@1ml
week9 hcg@1000iu on mon 500iu wed and sat
week10 hcg@500iu mon-wed-sat
week11 hcg@500iu mon-wed sat
week12 tamoxafen citrate@50mg ed
week13 40mg
week14 20mg
provion all the way@25mged
cheers

I think that is a great starter cycle. i would skip the proviron though.Its funny how some say that people take too much gear for thier first cycle. Now they say you need more Never ssems to amaze me Run that cycle and keep us posted
S_P

 

[Bozwell]

I think that is a great starter cycle. i would skip the proviron though.Its funny how some say that people take too much gear for thier first cycle. Now they say you need more Never ssems to amaze me Run that cycle and keep us posted
S_P

CHEERS BRO

 

[IronWuu]

Why start dbol at 5mg dosage? And why not start it from the get-go? week 1-4/5 i'd go.

 

[turbogreek]

PCT STARTS AT WEEK 9,Its a light cycle because i dont know how i will react the the aas i will be using, if i only gain a few pounds and a slight increase in streanth but have no side effects i will be happy then next time ill use the same aas but more of them(see the plan?)this is my first cycle so its more of an experament than a cycle

yo bro...i think it's a great idea to start light for the 1st time and see what happens. some guys need over a gram/week of test. you may not. there's another thread on here that i was reading yesturday in this forum about "results from test @ 250mg/week" (or something like that). it's amazing the difference of oppinions. though, you may wanna consider this:

(1)bump up the d-bol to 15 or 20mg/day (5 or 10 is probably a total waist even for a beginner)
(2)more milk thistle as help4john says
(3)your PCT needs work (check out the pct forum or take slat1's advice on clomid)
(4)proviron not really necessary
(5)i run nolva for bloat and possible gyno my whole cycle @10 or 20mg/day (then i bump it up for the 3 weeks before pct straight through PCT then a weeka or 2 after)
(6)HCG? i dont really have much experience with it so do more research.

good luck bro...keep us posted. wanna know your results
turbogreek

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

Right then i have finaly got all my shit together
I was just going to do a sust only cycle,but dbol is so cheap,im going to add a low dose along with some proivon to help keep the estrogen away and harden me up.well hears the plan
week1 sust250@1ml
week2 sust250@1ml -5mg of dbol-500mg of milk thistle
week3 sust250@1ml-10mg of dbol-500mg of milk thistle
week4 sust250@1ml-15mg of dbol-500g of mik thistle
week5 sust250@1ml-10mgof dbol-500g of milk thistle
week6 sust250@1ml-5mg of dbol-500g of
week7 sust250@1ml
week8 sust250@1ml
week9 hcg@1000iu on mon 500iu wed and sat
week10 hcg@500iu mon-wed-sat
week11 hcg@500iu mon-wed sat
week12 tamoxafen citrate@50mg ed
week13 40mg
week14 20mg
provion all the way@25mged
cheers

You need to start the dbol week 1 and start the dosage at 25-30mg ed. 5mg ed will not give you results. Your 250mg ew is fine, you'll grow. So start the dbol as soon as you start the 250mg and take more thistle, it doesn't weaken your steroids it only helps your liver...so take more

 

[Bozwell]

Right then , ive fine tuned my cycle and start this friday
weeks1-8 sust 250@1ml perweek
week1-5 dbol 10mg ed-20mg ed-30mg ed-20mg ed-10mg ed
liquidex 0.5ml ed instead of proviron for bloat and keep gyno away
weeks10-14 nolva @50mg ed-30mg-ed 20mg ed-20mg ed
clomid@100mg ed- 50mg ed
hcg@250iu (more if needed) e3d weeks 1-11
milk thitle @1gram ed weeks 1-5
what do you think? AM I READY!?

 

[Jarbeebus]

looks good to me. I used the same amount of sust and had great strength gains...and I used no dbol. The liquidex was a good call...sust made me puffy...like Vince Vaughn

 

[SuperDawgy]

Right then , ive fine tuned my cycle and start this friday
weeks1-8 sust 250@1ml perweek
week1-5 dbol 10mg ed-20mg ed-30mg ed-20mg ed-10mg ed
liquidex 0.5ml ed instead of proviron for bloat and keep gyno away
weeks10-14 nolva @50mg ed-30mg-ed 20mg ed-20mg ed
clomid@100mg ed- 50mg ed
hcg@250iu (more if needed) e3d weeks 1-11
milk thitle @1gram ed weeks 1-5
what do you think? AM I READY!?

Looks good except for the dbol. It would be better for you to go a straight 20mg a day as opposed to the pyramid you have laid out now, and just run it for 4 weeks.

 

[oxymoron]

If your diet is top notch and you follow up with good pct, you'll probably put on 8-10 lbm. Your just getting started...don't use dbol.

 

[Xtream]

sust takes 3 weeks to start working I think. Stays in you 3 weeks after your last shot. I would start the pct 2-3 weeks after last shot of sust. If you start to feel tender in the nipple and swelling you might need 20 mg anti-e everyday. Keep running it all the way through to the end of pct. Take the Hcg first for 3 days then run the clomid cycle. I think you are to wait 3 weeks after a sust. run befor starting pct. I may be wrong?

 

[Bozwell]

If your diet is top notch and you follow up with good pct, you'll probably put on 8-10 lbm. Your just getting started...don't use dbol.

why no dbol>,everyone seem to like it

 

[help4john]

why no dbol>,everyone seem to like it

Some are under the impression that it would be overkill to add DBOL. This is the first cycle and IMHO everyone's first cycle should be test only. I too think perhaps saving the DBOL until your next cycle may be for the best. Let's see how your body reacts first, then take it from there. Better to be safe than to be sorry.

 

[Bozwell]

Some are under the impression that it would be overkill to add DBOL. This is the first cycle and IMHO everyone's first cycle should be test only. I too think perhaps saving the DBOL until your next cycle may be for the best. Let's see how your body reacts first, then take it from there. Better to be safe than to be sorry.

TRUE!

 

[Bozwell]

Some are under the impression that it would be overkill to add DBOL. This is the first cycle and IMHO everyone's first cycle should be test only. I too think perhaps saving the DBOL until your next cycle may be for the best. Let's see how your body reacts first, then take it from there. Better to be safe than to be sorry.

TRUE! Maybe a dbol only cycle next with some liquidex