cycle advice

[Harder N Leaner]

ok, ive been stocking up. heres what i got. test e, deca, dbol, winny. and all the pct and anti-e's. here's my dilema.... I DONT want to blow up!! I want a gradual increase in size. i was thinking about a dbol then winny cycle to start, then pct, then wait a month or so and do the test/deca cycle. oh, can pct and winny be done consecutively.?

 

[swordfish151]

ok, ive been stocking up. heres what i got. test e, deca, dbol, winny. and all the pct and anti-e's. here's my dilema.... I DONT want to blow up!! I want a gradual increase in size. i was thinking about a dbol then winny cycle to start, then pct, then wait a month or so and do the test/deca cycle. oh, can pct and winny be done consecutively.?

You need more research under your belt my friend..what are your stats? age? Im assuming this would be your first cycle....DBOL will blow you up...DECA will blow you up...well actually all those would if you got in the cals...but first of..what are your stats?

 

[Harder N Leaner]

Ive been researching for a while now. im 31 yrs. 5-11 and 195. bf 18% but im dieting(and taking thryroid activator) and doing cardio rite now to lower the bf. This will be my 5th cycle. 1st was winny only about 4 years ago. 2nd was test e only about 1.5yrs ago. third was deca only about 1 year ago. fourth was test only 6 months ago. i just dont want people accusing me of being on the juice. dont want to blow up to a obvious point.... thanks

 

[Throw2Far]

Diet to around 12% before using AAS.

"Blowing Up" is usually most noticable when you retain water. Create a cycle that puts you up 10 lbs lbm and doesnt bloat you. There are many options...

If you are using Test E/Deca/Dbol you will need atleast 1mg A-Dex or another inhibitor to counteract bloat...

If this is your 5th cycle then don't worry about gaining 30 lbs cuz unless you drastically change your habits it won't happen...

 

[Harder N Leaner]

i had very noticable gains on the last few cycles. and never "stacked"

 

[i am what i am]

As Swordfish said, Wouldn't Test E, Deca, and D-bol blow you up. I guess you would attempt to try to prevent the bloat, but you probably will still hold some water on this cycle.

I also wouldn't suggest stacking winstorl with your PCT. That's the time you should be spending to raisiing your natural test production. Post Cycle Therapy should be for when you are completely off gear. Even winstrol suppresses your natural test.

 

[Lestat]

Don't worry about blowing up, its a lot harder then you think. You can control how much you blow up by how many calories you take in and how heavy you train.

No go on the winny/dbol cycle. Bad idea.

No, you cannot start PCT while still taking winny, the winny will inhibit natural test procution.

is this your first cycle? If so, try the test OR deca along. If you've got some experience, then stack both, start off with the dbol for the first 3-4 weeks, and finish off with winny for the last 3-4 weeks.

To plan a full cycle you need to tell us what quantities of everything you have.. including your PCT meds, those are just as important if not more important.

 

[Apexx]

u didn't state how long u planned on running these so I'll just assume. ur planning on what will probably be 6 weeks of dbol, then 6 weeks of winny, then 4 weeks off then another 12 weeks of test/deca. There's a few things wrong with that.

First, running orals back to back like that is going to play hell on your liver. Don't do it, even with liver protectants.
Second, Your test will be shut down from the orals. The 4 week break probably isn't going to be enough to get you back to normal. So, you'll essentially be shut down for 28 weeks.......that's pretty hard to recover from.

You said u don't want to bloat, so this is what I'd do.
1-12 test 500mg/wk
1-12 deca 300mg/wk
8-13 winny 50mg/ed
run adex and dost to keep the bloating down. Leave the dbol for another time.

ok, ive been stocking up. heres what i got. test e, deca, dbol, winny. and all the pct and anti-e's. here's my dilema.... I DONT want to blow up!! I want a gradual increase in size. i was thinking about a dbol then winny cycle to start, then pct, then wait a month or so and do the test/deca cycle. oh, can pct and winny be done consecutively.?

 

[swordfish151]

ok, ive been stocking up. heres what i got. test e, deca, dbol, winny. and all the pct and anti-e's. here's my dilema.... I DONT want to blow up!! I want a gradual increase in size. i was thinking about a dbol then winny cycle to start, then pct, then wait a month or so and do the test/deca cycle. oh, can pct and winny be done consecutively.?

Its going to boil down to how many cals you take in...you can take all that (not saying you should) but if your calorie intake isnt up to par and your macros are all out of wack then you end up not gaining much...i would suggest the test -e and winny if you want dont want to pack on to much size on..but again it all boils down to what your eating too...