Cycle Advice

[dengnj]

I'm planning the following 8 week cycle:

Week 1-8 Deca @ 250mg / wk
Week 1-8 Sust or Test-E @ 500mg / week (Mon., 250mg & Thur. 250mg)
Week 1-8 Dbol @ 30mg / day

PCT will consist of Proviron @ 25mg / day starting at week #2 if needed ... HCG week 9 & 10, 1500 i.u. Mon. & Thur ... Clomid starting @ week 8 100mg / day, & week 9-11 50mg / day.

I've got the Deca, Dbol, HCG, & Clomid on hand. Do I need to change any of the other stuff or do I have a pretty solid plan so far? What do you recommend for a guy my age Sust or Test-E?

I'm 40 y.o. ... workout regularly for over 10 years ... 5'11", 205#, 15% b.f., 46" chest, 33 waist, 16" bi's. This will be my 3rd cycle (first two were orals only) and although I got pretty good results, I'd like to take it a step further. I just don't get the gains I used to when I was 30, and there's some size I'd like to add in certain areas.

I've been reading as much as I could (here and on other boards). I just need to have a little confirmation before I proceed. Any info/advice will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

 

[sweed]

a few suggestions... increase test and deca to at least 10 weeks. only use dbol for the first 4 weeks, u cna increase the deca to 400 mgs. 250 could be a little low.
i have only used test e.. you could use either of the 2.

 

[2NDOMEGA]

I don't get the gains like I did when I was younger either. I think you should ask yourself what is your goal. If you want to be a freak you will need alot more than what you have. But I think you can get some good gains off what you have in stock, especially if it's been awhile. The key here will be diet/training and rest. I have had great results in the past using pretty much the same cycle. Good luck....

 

[dengnj]

I don't get the gains like I did when I was younger either. I think you should ask yourself what is your goal. If you want to be a freak you will need alot more than what you have. But I think you can get some good gains off what you have in stock, especially if it's been awhile. The key here will be diet/training and rest. I have had great results in the past using pretty much the same cycle. Good luck....

At my age I won't fool myself into thinking that with training and A.S. I'll have the body of a 20 y.o. On the contrary, I'm looking to make some consistent, solid gains and not just work out to maintain what I've achieved so far ... which is what brought me to consider A.S. in the first place.

I'm thinking more along the lines of a steady increase in size & strength via a few not so insane cycles a year.

But you're absolutely right, this won't work for me unless I have everything in place (diet, training, & rest).

Thanks for your input. I appreciate it a great deal.

 

[dengnj]

a few suggestions... increase test and deca to at least 10 weeks. only use dbol for the first 4 weeks, u cna increase the deca to 400 mgs. 250 could be a little low.
i have only used test e.. you could use either of the 2.

I was thinking start off my first I.V. / oral cycle a little lower to figure out how my body's going to react. Is this a correct thought, or in your opinion a little higher dose of Deca won't have adverse effects?

And, you're right. 8 weeks on Dbol is too long. I didn't think about the effect on my liver, although I did have Liver-X, Omega-3, & ALA planned to counteract that.

Thanks for pointing that out.

 

[djsf]

From what I have read, I would consider doing the HCG during the last two weeks of your cycle instead of right after your cycle. That way your balls should be fully grown back at the beginning of your PCT (right as your cycle ends) and you can get to work on restoring natural testosterone levels with a full set of balls. Also, I have read that HCG itself can interfere with natural testosterone production, so it seems good to get that out of hte way before starting PCT. That way PCT is only about restoring natural testosterone levels in your system after the competing androgenic compounds have left.

Please reply if I am incorrect.
- DJ

 

[Ulter]

You should push the clomid back two weeks.
Yes you should use the hcg in week 8 1000iu/day Do not shoot by the days of the week. Shoot every 3 days or everý 4 days to maintain even blood levels.
Get Tyler liver detox and Glucorell R from the AF Store.
I have the body of a 25 year old so don't think it can't be done.

 

[dengnj]

You should push the clomid back two weeks.
Yes you should use the hcg in week 8 1000iu/day Do not shoot by the days of the week. Shoot every 3 days or everý 4 days to maintain even blood levels.
Get Tyler liver detox and Glucorell R from the AF Store.
I have the body of a 25 year old so don't think it can't be done.

Just so I understand what you said ... Start Clomid in week #6, not week #8; HCG start week 8 at 1000 i.u. (not 1500 i.u.) every 4 days to maintain even blood levels. Would 4 shots of HCG be sufficient then?

Thanks!

 

[trinidad]

I'm planning the following 8 week cycle:

Week 1-8 Deca @ 250mg / wk
Week 1-8 Sust or Test-E @ 500mg / week (Mon., 250mg & Thur. 250mg)
Week 1-8 Dbol @ 30mg / day

PCT will consist of Proviron @ 25mg / day starting at week #2 if needed ... HCG week 9 & 10, 1500 i.u. Mon. & Thur ... Clomid starting @ week 8 100mg / day, & week 9-11 50mg / day.

I've got the Deca, Dbol, HCG, & Clomid on hand. Do I need to change any of the other stuff or do I have a pretty solid plan so far? What do you recommend for a guy my age Sust or Test-E?

I'm 40 y.o. ... workout regularly for over 10 years ... 5'11", 205#, 15% b.f., 46" chest, 33 waist, 16" bi's. This will be my 3rd cycle (first two were orals only) and although I got pretty good results, I'd like to take it a step further. I just don't get the gains I used to when I was 30, and there's some size I'd like to add in certain areas.

I've been reading as much as I could (here and on other boards). I just need to have a little confirmation before I proceed. Any info/advice will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

I'm also 40 bro, I'd make some changes to your cycle. I'd run:
deca 1-10 or 12 400 mgs.
test 1-10 or 12 500 mgs.
dbol 1-4 30 mgs.

Start the clomid 2 wks after last shot, hcg 1 wk after last shot.
I prefer running slow acting esters for longer cycles.

 

[Ulter]

No, Clomid in 10 instead of 8.
Shoot hcg 1000iu/day for a week in week 8
Shoot YOUR GEAR every 3 or every 4 days to maintain even blood levels.