CYCLE 4 GYNO-PRONE. Lean cutter. Good?

[musclehealth]

I have been getting sign's of gyno from the last 2 cycles. I am now off and completed PCT. I plan on taking 2-3 months rest then hitting up another cycle...

5 weeks.
75mg Var ED
Provirone 50mg ED
Prop 75mg EOD (dropped a week 4)
50mcg T3 ED
2IU GH 5/2 (will already be 5 months into the GH)

How does this look? I know the Provirone will assist in binding to the estrogen to help with the prop. Var should cause no sign's. Should I go to100mg Var or stick low?

 

[AhMadKooL]

cycle too short...

 

[musclehealth]

cycle too short...

Please explain further...I have read and been told that short cycles (4 -6 weeks) and then 4-6 weeks off. Over and over gets alot better results then long 10+ week cycles. I have talked to many pro's who say they do the same.

 

[Bruce]

go by what works best for you. i just dropped the eq on week 17, its my third real cycle and ive gained about 14lbs of lean mass. i start to really gain around week 10. now i know plenty of guys that do better off short cycles. yes i did use a kicker and yes i have prop and fast acting esters but still the real results come for me on week 8-10 of a long ester and the others are just added bonus. i'm on npp right now letting the eq clear. try the cycle it looks good to me. i think that you should start with 75mg of var ed and see how it treats you. i was on 100mg of var ed in june and its the most insane pumps and strength ive ever seen but i cramped up so bad from the heat and i had to drop it. so start at 50-75mg ed and work your way up. if you gain well off the short cycle stick with it, if not try something else.

btw i ran tbol for 25 days one time at 60mg ed, it is logged somewhere on here. i gained like 7lbs of lean mass and kept it. pct was a cinch. however, orals reak such havoc i'm sticking to npp and susp for kicking.

 

[musclehealth]

go by what works best for you. i just dropped the eq on week 17, its my third real cycle and ive gained about 14lbs of lean mass. i start to really gain around week 10. now i know plenty of guys that do better off short cycles. yes i did use a kicker and yes i have prop and fast acting esters but still the real results come for me on week 8-10 of a long ester and the others are just added bonus. i'm on npp right now letting the eq clear. try the cycle it looks good to me. i think that you should start with 75mg of var ed and see how it treats you. i was on 100mg of var ed in june and its the most insane pumps and strength ive ever seen but i cramped up so bad from the heat and i had to drop it. so start at 50-75mg ed and work your way up. if you gain well off the short cycle stick with it, if not try something else.

btw i ran tbol for 25 days one time at 60mg ed, it is logged somewhere on here. i gained like 7lbs of lean mass and kept it. pct was a cinch. however, orals reak such havoc i'm sticking to npp and susp for kicking.

I hear thats the safest way. Maybe I can extend the cycle to 6 weeks. I can frontload of suspension to get it faster. Ya...Im trying to stay away from orals.(harsh ones...dbol, anadrol, tbol)

 

[AhMadKooL]

Please explain further...I have read and been told that short cycles (4 -6 weeks) and then 4-6 weeks off. Over and over gets alot better results then long 10+ week cycles. I have talked to many pro's who say they do the same.

Personaly i prefer longer cycles; I'm not saying that shorter cycles don't work; it's just that i never tried them

 

[AhMadKooL]

Plus i'm interested to know how u do in this cycle so keep us posted about your progress.

I'd also bump up the var to 100 mg ED

 

[musclehealth]

Plus i'm interested to know how u do in this cycle so keep us posted about your progress.

I'd also bump up the var to 100 mg ED

Im thinking I will do that. Ian Harrison (pro) from another board posted that he likes short low dose cycles more often. Rather then only a few long ones. He is insane so I will take his advice. This will be my first short cycle...shortest was 12 weeks.