Cycle #3 start Friday, critique.

[ryan04]

Starting this bad boy Friday.

1-12: 1000 mgs sust
1-12: 500 mgs eq
1-5: 30 mgs d-bol e.d.
1-12: .5 mgs liquidex e.d.
1-2, 5-6, 9-10: clen

PCT: clomid, HCG, nolva, clen

I'm 25 yrs old, 5'10, 195 lbs (not sure b.f. but fairly lean), been lifting on and off since high school, last 4 1/2 yrs religiously. Obviously, this ones gonna be a bulker. Running some clen in there to help keep some fat off and a-dex for the bloat. I'll be eating 4500 cals a day and doing cardio 3-5 times a week (depending on what I can get in w/ the d-bol pumps).
It's a lot of gear but I started off doing a lot of gear (first cycle was over a gram), so really I'm only upping it about 1/2 gram more than I was doing. Past cycles were d-bol/test/deca and test/tren.

 

[showtime2004]

Starting this bad boy Friday.

1-12: 1000 mgs sust
1-12: 500 mgs eq
1-5: 30 mgs d-bol e.d.
1-12: .5 mgs liquidex e.d.
1-2, 5-6, 9-10: clen

PCT: clomid, HCG, nolva, clen

I'm 25 yrs old, 5'10, 195 lbs (not sure b.f. but fairly lean), been lifting on and off since high school, last 4 1/2 yrs religiously. Obviously, this ones gonna be a bulker. Running some clen in there to help keep some fat off and a-dex for the bloat. I'll be eating 4500 cals a day and doing cardio 3-5 times a week (depending on what I can get in w/ the d-bol pumps).
It's a lot of gear but I started off doing a lot of gear (first cycle was over a gram), so really I'm only upping it about 1/2 gram more than I was doing. Past cycles were d-bol/test/deca and test/tren.

Drop the clen and the cardio. If you are trying to bulk, don't worry about a little extra fat and strip it off after you bulk.

Quite honestly, you're using too much gear for a 3rd cycle. Thats my .02.

 

[Makavelli]

Looks great. I would increase the D-Bol to 50 mgs and drop the clen. Save it for PCT.

 

[ryan04]

I know its a lot, but I have enough Karachis left over to run exactly a gram for 12 wks (was gonna do 750 mgs) and this is the last time I plan on using sust (going w/enanthate from now on). I don't like having this shit laying around and figured I might as well kill it.
I don't think clen would hurt, just help keep off some fat...am I wrong?

 

[showtime2004]

You can't really cut and bulk at the same time. I'd just bulk up as much as I can. Then when my cycle is done I'd throw the clen in there and cut up.

 

[stuck]

Looks good to me. Good luck with that cardio on dbol.

 

[ryan04]

Oh yeah, I got a bunch of Liv-52 I'll be taking while on dbols.

 

[shamrock11]

Everything looks ok but you need to run the EQ longer like 14 to 16 wweeks. It takes a while for eq to kick in so you'll be stopping it and still gettng results from it at 12 weeks. Just my opinion though.

 

[Throw2Far]

Too much gear IMO...

 

[BiG n Natural]

run the liquidex until week 14 or 15, to prevent an estrogen rebound which will make recovery harder

 

[karachi183]

up the dbol for sure! As for the 1000mgs of sus at ur age i would stay away from something that high. Have you run sus that high before?

 

[ryan04]

My 1st cycle I ran sust @ 750 mgs a week (along w/deca300 and 30mg dbol), but it was Tornel so it was probably somewhere in the 600's (if that). Last cycle I ran 500 mgs sust (karachi) w/ 75 mgs fina e.d. I'm probably going to drop the sust down to 750, will decide by tomorrow (it's Karachi again). As for the dbols, I only have 110 tabs (10mg), so 30mg e.d. is about all I can run, or I can run 40mgs for about 3 wks. I'm a broke college student, gotta work with what I got.

Would you guys run the d-bol @ 40 mgs for 3 wks, or 30mgs for 5 wks?
I'll run the adex a little longer, I've also got nolva I was gonna start taking at week 10-14 and HCG/clomid/clen for PCT.

 

[sprinter86]

Way too much gear! Drop the Sust to 500-750mg/wk. Your receptors are going to be saturated with less than that anyway. Any more will give you diminishing gains.

And also you will get sides from that cycle.

 

[karachi183]

My 1st cycle I ran sust @ 750 mgs a week (along w/deca300 and 30mg dbol), but it was Tornel so it was probably somewhere in the 600's (if that). Last cycle I ran 500 mgs sust (karachi) w/ 75 mgs fina e.d. I'm probably going to drop the sust down to 750, will decide by tomorrow (it's Karachi again). As for the dbols, I only have 110 tabs (10mg), so 30mg e.d. is about all I can run, or I can run 40mgs for about 3 wks. I'm a broke college student, gotta work with what I got.

Would you guys run the d-bol @ 40 mgs for 3 wks, or 30mgs for 5 wks?
I'll run the adex a little longer, I've also got nolva I was gonna start taking at week 10-14 and HCG/clomid/clen for PCT.

Depending on what kind of dbols they are i would say play around and try to hit 40 for at least one week then back down to a maintenance dose. I'm only on 25 mgs now and i wish i had enough to hit 50mgs. But to directly answer you ? about 30 for 5 weeks? run it however you can for a longer period. Good luck!!!

 

[ryan04]

Heres revised cycle:

1-12: 750 mgs sust
1-12: 500 mgs eq
1-3: 40 mgs dbol, wk 4 30 mgs
1-15: adex
10-15: nolva
1-4: Liv-52

PCT: clomid, nolva, HCG
Start tomorrow morning, started cooking and preparing meals for the week tonight...I'm pumped as hell about this one!

 

[Makavelli]

Heres revised cycle:

1-12: 750 mgs sust
1-12: 500 mgs eq
1-3: 40 mgs dbol, wk 4 30 mgs
1-15: adex
10-15: nolva
1-4: Liv-52

PCT: clomid, nolva, HCG
Start tomorrow morning, started cooking and preparing meals for the week tonight...I'm pumped as hell about this one!

Why did you decrease the test and why not do 40 mgs of D-Bol for the whole 4 weeks? Tapering does nothing.

 

[ryan04]

I only have 110 10mg dbols. This is ALL I have and ALL I will have. No more $$$. Don't want to taper, just want to run a good high amount as long as possible. If I had $ I would run 40 or 50mg for 6 wks, but I don't so I can't and I won't. I'm sure all this shit will be more than adequate. Thanks everyone. 9 hours till cycle!

 

[paridhm]

Heres revised cycle:

1-12: 750 mgs sust
1-12: 500 mgs eq
1-3: 40 mgs dbol, wk 4 30 mgs
1-15: adex
10-15: nolva
1-4: Liv-52

PCT: clomid, nolva, HCG
Start tomorrow morning, started cooking and preparing meals for the week tonight...I'm pumped as hell about this one!

Why are you taking the nolva 10-15? Don't use the nolva until pct time unless you feel gyno symptoms. FYI: Glucorel from the AF store would be great for your liver health.