cutting with T3

[morpheusxxl]

Hi !

I´m going to start my first T3 cycle. I´ve already done ECA and Clen cycles several times. So, my question is what would you take to protect your muscles from the catabolic effect of the T3??? A friend of me takes some d-bol during the cycle. I´d prefer some Winnis, because of the water. Which dosage would be the best.

Greetz,
morpheusxxl

 

[leb007]

wouldn't it be good to use some clen with it?

 

[Widi]

I like a Winny - Primo combo on T3. You can further use Clen to enhance the effect of T3.

 

[morpheusxxl]

So, of course I´ll use some clen. I think it´s very good for fat loss but I´m not sure of the anti-catabolic effect. And you have to stop clen after 18 days or so for at least 2 weeks because of the receptors, but I wanted to do T3 for 6 weeks.

 

[morpheusxxl]

Hi Widi!

Which dosage of Winni/Primo do you prefer during the cycle?

morpheusxxl

 

[Widi]

Winny = 50 mg EOD
Primo = 200 mg week (you can use up to 400 but for me 200 is enuff)

I start with Primo 2 weeks before I use T3, to have some stable levels of anabolics in my blood before I hit the system with T3.

 

[morpheusxxl]

That sounds good to me. My friend thinks, that Winni is too weak to protect the muscles. He´s going to try d-Bol with some TestoP I think. So anybody has some other ideas!?

Greetz,
morpheus

 

[Buld0g]

If your doing it just for cutting then choose one of the lighter drugs like winny or primo. B-ball would be wasted because you wont be eating the calories that you should to get maximun muscle growth. You should also take BCAA's and glutimine.

 

[Aileen]

Guys: I have a question can you please tell me your doses that were taken using T-3.

 

[pgerardone]

ANy normal steroid cycle will help with any catabolic effects from the t3. However, keep the t3 dose modest as too high a dose will eat muscle no matter what steroids you use. Stay betwee 12.5-50mcgs a day. There is no reason to ever have to go higher then that. If you must go higher there is something not right with your diet.

 

[pgerardone]

If your doing it just for cutting then choose one of the lighter drugs like winny or primo. B-ball would be wasted because you wont be eating the calories that you should to get maximun muscle growth. You should also take BCAA's and glutimine.

This is not true. D-bol is very anti-catabolic, much more so then winny or primo.

 

[Buld0g]

This is not true. D-bol is very anti-catabolic, much more so then winny or primo.

Well dahhhh ... but it is ment for a bulking drug. In that case take anadrol. If you take D-ball while dieting your wasting your money because your not maximizing the drug to it's fullest potential. That would be like buying a ferarri and only being able to drive it 55 miles per hour. You need to eat in order to grow. If he said his goal was to gain muscle while losing fat, then mabye I could see one taking D-ball and t3. His goal is to "mantian" muscle while losing fat.So I would stick with drugs like winny, deca, primo, eq, anavar.

 

[pgerardone]

Well dahhhh ... but it is ment for a bulking drug. In that case take anadrol. If you take D-ball while dieting your wasting your money because your not maximizing the drug to it's fullest potential. That would be like buying a ferarri and only being able to drive it 55 miles per hour. You need to eat in order to grow. If he said his goal was to gain muscle while losing fat, then mabye I could see one taking D-ball and t3. His goal is to "mantian" muscle while losing fat.So I would stick with drugs like winny, deca, primo, eq, anavar.

Tell me, what is a bulking drug there is no such thing. The differences in peoples results lies in diet not what drug they choose to use. All steroids increase anabolism to different degrees. You will actually maintain more muscle with what you call bulking drugs then your so-called cutting drugs because the bulking drugs are more anabolic and more catabolic. The diffenece you are talking about lies in water retention not anabolism. Those drugs you refer to as "bulking" can tend to hold more water then the"cutting" drugs. This, however can be rendered inconsequential through the use of a proper diet and something such as arimidex. However a correct diet and a good amount of water alone will allow someone to diet on d-bol, anadrol, test ect. and be just as hard looking as some one on winny, anavar ect.(and probably bigger). If the person is competing then these "bulking" drugs can be replaced by "cutting" drugs for the last few weeks before the contest to eliminate the small amount of water that the "bulking" drugs may cause the person to hold on to. Diuretuics also will counteract any problem at the end. If the person dieted right the water I am talking about is water to be eliminated pre-contest not water that needs to be eliminated to look good at the beach or in the local night club. Your point that if someone is dieting they should not use d-bol because the will not be able to get the most muscle growth out of it(because of a lower calorie diet) is true of any steroid, not just d-bol.

 

[Buld0g]

if someone is dieting they should not use d-bol because the will not be able to get the most muscle growth out of it(because of a lower calorie diet) is true of any steroid, not just d-bol.

Well I guess every one has got thier own theories, but there is scientific proof showing that other drugs such as primo, can allow one to follow a low calorie diet and still gain. So your point being that "all" drugs require a high calorie diet is not 100% true. Why would the kid want to damage his body with the hard drugs like d-ball or anadrol if he's not gonna get all he can out of it. The way I see it is if I'm gonna mess with the "big boy"drugs, I'm gonna make it worth my wild and eat like a mother fucker. So if he's dieting then I think the lighter drugs would be better. Just my opinion. Plus most people diet to look leaner and more defined. And if he's on d-ball he's gonna hold water regardless of what he takes to prevent his bloat.

 

[sicklydiesel]

why not use some test to keep your muscle?..if you took arimidex to keep off the water , wouldnt you stay lean?..im curious to know cuz i plan on doing test,fina,clen, t3,arimidex in the spring

 

[pgerardone]

Well I guess every one has got thier own theories, but there is scientific proof showing that other drugs such as primo, can allow one to follow a low calorie diet and still gain. So your point being that "all" drugs require a high calorie diet is not 100% true. Why would the kid want to damage his body with the hard drugs like d-ball or anadrol if he's not gonna get all he can out of it. The way I see it is if I'm gonna mess with the "big boy"drugs, I'm gonna make it worth my wild and eat like a mother fucker. So if he's dieting then I think the lighter drugs would be better. Just my opinion. Plus most people diet to look leaner and more defined. And if he's on d-ball he's gonna hold water regardless of what he takes to prevent his bloat.

Some truth in both our arguments. Although I have always included d-bol, anadrol ect. anytime I diet. I hold more muscle then times when I did not. My point was only that someone can lower their bodyfat just as much and hold on to as much if not more muscle using dbol then when using winny or primo. Also you can look very, very lean and very ripped while on d-bol or anadrol or test if you know how to diet.

 

[pgerardone]

why not use some test to keep your muscle?..if you took arimidex to keep off the water , wouldnt you stay lean?..im curious to know cuz i plan on doing test,fina,clen, t3,arimidex in the spring

I keep saying the same thing: you will stay lean if you eat correctly no matter what steroid you use.